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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #240 on: February 05, 2015, 05:17:56 PM »
...and that is his fault?

absolutely not

But I do think that there should be a certain about of "buyer beware " that should go with this site

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #241 on: February 05, 2015, 05:18:25 PM »
I'll say it again guys. FREAKONOMICS, read it!

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #242 on: February 05, 2015, 05:18:53 PM »
I believe most everyone on DDF knows its a business. The ones that don't also think he makes deals with el Al for $300 fares. And want him to make those deals more often.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #243 on: February 05, 2015, 05:20:42 PM »
Not blinded by admiration, and I absolutely see it as a business. I'm reminded of that every time that my phone buzzes with a Twitter alert that I can save $1 on an Amazon Gold Box Monopoly Game!

But I firmly believe that this is much more than just a business to Dan. It was started as a hobby, meant to share his passion for travel and travel deals with the members of the interweb, without a long-term profit plan, and if I have to guess, without any wild idea that this hobby would one day be a full time job and support two families. The fact that this has actually gone on to become all that doesn't change the fact that Dan is helping people and doing what he can to bring benefit to those who follow.

In business, there are those who get by, and those who go above and beyond in order to make me, their customer, have the best experience that I can. Yes it's good business, and yes they benefit as well, but quite frankly, who in this world ever does anything without some sort of personal interest? (Even when that interest is as simple as the good feeling you get from helping someone.) This morning a gate agent bumped me up to a better (read: paid) seat this morning for free. Yes this is good business because the airline that he works for now has a customer with a good experience under their belt, but at the same time, he went above and beyond what he had to do, and therefore I appreciated it. Every action has motivation attached to it, but if that action benefits me, then I am thankful.

I can't say that I am a true 'chasid' of Dan, as you claim, (not that that's a bad thing), but I have met him briefly on occasions, and from all of my experiences he is a nice guy who enjoys helping people even when there isn't a direct financial incentive, therefore I am thankful to him. That's all.
I think the longevity is due to the fact that is started as and for several years it remained just a hobby.  Had it been only about the bottom line there were times I'd have quit.

One reason I still do seminars even though I actually have a fear of public speaking and am an introvert in real life is that people tell me that they're pleasantly surprised with my personality and the Q&A sessions.
It's nice to hear that. I guess my online persona doesn't match my real one.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #244 on: February 05, 2015, 05:21:38 PM »
absolutely not

But I do think that there should be a certain about of "buyer beware " that should go with this site
So you want a post that I'm not a tzadik?
The advertiser disclosures don't do that?
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #245 on: February 05, 2015, 05:26:21 PM »
I am a contrarian

but that has nothing to do with my avatar
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #246 on: February 05, 2015, 05:29:40 PM »
So you want a post that I'm not a tzadik?

We should probably make a poll on this first to see if you should:

whether Dan is a tzaddik or a bum.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #247 on: February 05, 2015, 05:30:36 PM »
You don't even know him. So why are you trying to explain what his thoughts are?

I believe most everyone on DDF knows its a business. The ones that don't also think he makes deals with el Al for $300 fares. And want him to make those deals more often.
well there a DDF chasid goes again with no concept of reality. In the real world im sorry to inform u that businesses are out for themselves. BTW, just so u know for next time, when Macy's sends u a sales catalog with AMAZING DEALS its not for ur good but for theirs. Just thought u should know that.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #248 on: February 05, 2015, 05:31:55 PM »
So you want a post that I'm not a tzadik?
The advertiser disclosures don't do that?

my point is not directed at you per se.

My point is that the people that consume your blog should understand that it is a business just like any other, and should think about what you post in that light. just like if a mechanic said you expensive repairs to your car you would seek out other options.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #249 on: February 05, 2015, 05:32:36 PM »
absolutely not

But I do think that there should be a certain about of "buyer beware " that should go with this site
Like on tobacco or alcohol?

I think the warning should only be shown to Californian IPs

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #250 on: February 05, 2015, 05:33:41 PM »
contrarian≠incendiary

and I dont believe my posts are incendiary or flaming

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« Reply #251 on: February 05, 2015, 05:34:05 PM »
But I do think that there should be a certain about of "buyer beware " that should go with any site
FTFY
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #252 on: February 05, 2015, 05:35:21 PM »
Who thinks that I'm a tzadik exactly anyway?
Have to meet some of these people to set them straight ;)

All I've encountered were people with hakaras hatov. People who flew places they otherwise couldn't afford.  I giggle when someone in a random restaurant in MIA goes crazy when they see me.  But all they really care to do is say thanks. And perhaps take a selfie for whatever reason.

Not I get that your (likely NYC if I had to guess) upbringing is to not appreciate/express sincere gratitude for anything that's not 100% altruistic (as if that exists anywhere), but it really bothers you that someone else might be thankful despite the fact that it's a business?
well first off good to c u have a sense of humor about it. I guess all this didn't get to ur head too much that u should get insulted as DDF'rs to at my blasphemous observations.
Second ur guess is incorrect im not from NYC and ive been at the receiving end of NYC related attitudes on many occasions. So that path wont work here.
and third off ur point of hakaras hatov is again incorrect. Again, do u go over to the manager of ur local supermarket when u go there to thank him for selling u food? Or is the opposite scenario more likely? I never said an act must be 100% altruistic to merit hakaras hatov. But a business is very far from 100% altruistic.


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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #253 on: February 05, 2015, 05:35:27 PM »

We should probably make a poll on this first to see if you should:

A diety should also be a choice

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« Reply #254 on: February 05, 2015, 05:37:10 PM »
and I dont believe my posts are incendiary or flaming
That is certainly contrarian. BTW flaming≠inflammatory
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« Reply #255 on: February 05, 2015, 05:37:46 PM »
We should probably make a poll on this first to see if you should:
he's neither just a man supporting his family looking our for himself like everyone else

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« Reply #256 on: February 05, 2015, 05:38:33 PM »
well first off good to c u have a sense of humor about it. I guess all this didn't get to ur head too much that u should get insulted as DDF'rs to at my blasphemous observations.
Second ur guess is incorrect im not from NYC and ive been at the receiving end of NYC related attitudes on many occasions. So that path wont work here.
and third off ur point of hakaras hatov is again incorrect. Again, do u go over to the manager of ur local supermarket when u go there to thank him for selling u food? Or is the opposite scenario more likely? I never said an act must be 100% altruistic to merit hakaras hatov. But a business is very far from 100% altruistic.


When I finish paying at a store I will tell the cashier "thank you". Do you?
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« Reply #257 on: February 05, 2015, 05:39:43 PM »
Again, do u go over to the manager of ur local supermarket when u go there to thank him for selling u food? Or is the opposite scenario more likely? I never said an act must be 100% altruistic to merit hakaras hatov. But a business is very far from 100% altruistic.
Depends on the business, but the altruism has absolutely nothing to do with it. Nobody besides perhaps blood relatives are altruistic.

Do I have hakaras hatov for a regular grocery? I say thanks, but there's no H"H.
But when that grocery gives me their cc machine to use on SBS I sure do have H"H.
When a business does something unique, personal, or does something beyond what's normally expected I have H"H as I explained in several scenarios earlier.

Why is that difficult to understand? Who taught you that H"H is based on altruism?

Either way advertiser supported online businesses aren't comparable at all as the customer isn't paying anyway.

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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #258 on: February 05, 2015, 05:40:58 PM »
he's neither just a man supporting his family looking our for himself like everyone else
Why don't you state your agenda and stop beating around the bush.
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Re: Consumer Advocate Attacks Credit Card/Points Blogs
« Reply #259 on: February 05, 2015, 05:41:50 PM »
When I finish paying at a store I will tell the cashier "thank you". Do you?

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