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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2015, 01:55:49 PM »
I've offered not-frum relatives alternate flight options, but I won't book them on shabbos.
+1.
But I love how everyone is paskening without ever learning the halachos.
There is ashach who says that mesayeah (as opposed to lifnei ever) does not apply to a mumar. There is a dispute as to whether we pasken like this schach. AYLOR
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2015, 02:09:48 PM »
Why don't you talk to your lor first and verify that it is forbidden.. If he happens to permit it,  then we can discuss our personal feelings


+1.
But I love how everyone is paskening without ever learning the halachos.
There is ashach who says that mesayeah (as opposed to lifnei ever) does not apply to a mumar. There is a dispute as to whether we pasken like this schach. AYLOR

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2015, 02:12:35 PM »
I have never looked deeply into these halachos but i have spoken to people representing leadership of the entire spectrum, from modern orthodox to ultra orthodox and I didn't find any that said I'm allowed to

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2015, 02:20:48 PM »
I have never looked deeply into these halachos but i have spoken to people representing leadership of the entire spectrum, from modern orthodox to ultra orthodox and I didn't find any that said I'm allowed to
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2015, 08:34:44 PM »
+1.
But I love how everyone is paskening without ever learning the halachos.
There is ashach who says that mesayeah (as opposed to lifnei ever) does not apply to a mumar. There is a dispute as to whether we pasken like this schach. AYLOR

1. How do you know what people have asked or not asked a rov? That's mighty presumptuous of you.
2. Even if they haven't asked a rov, everything that has a heter has to be done? What's your problem with Jews expressing extra sensitivity?
3. Since I mention sensitivity, I know you had a tayva to quote that sha"ch, but did you also have to whip out that "mumar" language. Even if you hadn't noticed that people on this thread mentioned that the shayla came up with non-frum relatives, it would still be insensitive.

That's all.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2015, 08:51:49 PM »
1. I think it was clear from the way people posted that they weren't basing it on a psak
2. Maybe and maybe not. But that should be based on the advise of your Rav as to whether that is appropriate.
3. As did I mention relatives.  And I don't think there is a difference between saying not frum and mumar. I'm sorry if that offended you. And I didn't have a "taavah" to quote the shach (presumptuous of you?). I thought it appropriate to quote the relevant halachik source when having a halachik discussion
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2015, 10:03:34 PM »
1. I think it was clear from the way people posted that they weren't basing it on a psak
2. Maybe and maybe not. But that should be based on the advise of your Rav as to whether that is appropriate.
3. As did I mention relatives.  And I don't think there is a difference between saying not frum and mumar. I'm sorry if that offended you. And I didn't have a "taavah" to quote the shach (presumptuous of you?). I thought it appropriate to quote the relevant halachik source when having a halachik discussion

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2015, 10:06:56 PM »
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2015, 10:14:58 PM »
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2015, 10:17:27 PM »
Curiosity made the cat smarter.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2015, 10:28:35 PM »

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2015, 10:28:48 PM »
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