Author Topic: Rabbis Who Bash Dansdeals Master Thread. (Read 26777 times)

coralsnake · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2015, 09:44:42 PM »

Rabbi didn't mention DD today. But did after SBS. Said then that Jews are supposed to be cheap but 900 cards totaling 27k is a bit excessive and doesn't put us in a good light when it's all over the internet.

benjie1305 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2015, 09:52:11 PM »

Quote from: coralsnake on February 14, 2015, 09:44:42 PM

Rabbi didn't mention DD today. But did after SBS. Said then that Jews are supposed to be cheap but 900 cards totaling 27k is a bit excessive and doesn't put us in a good light when it's all over the internet.

Just a teeny tiny bit

YOSEF · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2015, 10:04:34 PM »

I don't see any good coming of this thread.

I DO see bad coming of this thread.

VacationLover · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2015, 10:54:28 PM »

Quote from: YOSEF on February 14, 2015, 10:04:34 PM

I don't see any good coming of this thread.

I DO see bad coming of this thread.

Is this what your rabbi said?

@Yehuda · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2015, 11:17:10 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 14, 2015, 09:39:12 PM

Just laying here with my two dogs on my lap watching TV. Have a large bowl of fresh popcorn right next to me. Can get this thread going?

Do you really have 2 dogs? Thinking of getting one in the future and have been curious how it affects travelling. Not the right place for the discussion, but yeah, just curious if you actually have dogs.

lunatic · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2015, 11:20:04 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 14, 2015, 11:17:10 PM

Do you really have 2 dogs? Thinking of getting one in the future and have been curious how it affects travelling. Not the right place for the discussion, but yeah, just curious if you actually have dogs.

Cm, do you have social security numbers for then

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #26 on:** February 14, 2015, 11:39:24 PM »

Quote from: YOSEF on February 14, 2015, 10:04:34 PM

I don't see any good coming of this thread.

I DO see bad coming of this thread.

I don't see ANYTHING coming out of this thread...

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 14, 2015, 11:17:10 PM

Do you really have 2 dogs? Thinking of getting one in the future and have been curious how it affects travelling. Not the right place for the discussion, but yeah, just curious if you actually have dogs.

Try here

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #27 on:** February 14, 2015, 11:40:11 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 14, 2015, 11:17:10 PM

Do you really have 2 dogs? Thinking of getting one in the future and have been curious how it affects travelling. Not the right place for the discussion, but yeah, just curious if you actually have dogs.

Yes and they go to the Pet Resort when we are on vacation. It runs from 75/day (Studio suite) to 105/day (Presidential Patio) for the two of them.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #28 on:** February 14, 2015, 11:41:41 PM »

Quote from: lunatic on February 14, 2015, 11:20:04 PM

Cm, do you have social security numbers for then

No because that would be highly unethical.

chuchem · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:47:59 AM »

I did get in the deal and don't consider myself a zadik, but let's face it:
When we entered billing country as denmark, did we say the truth? Do you think this was "mdwar sheker tirchok"

I would say it goes into sheker and it's not 100% according to halacha... as I said, I also did it, but I know I probably would not have done it erev yom kipur

SamKey · « **Reply #30 on:** February 15, 2015, 09:35:47 AM »

Ok I'll bite, My Rabbi says on this topic that:
A. If a glitch is that of a Jewish company one is required to call up and let them know because of Hashavas Aveidah. One who didn't and purchases such a ticket is Mevatel Issur Asei
B. If it's a non-Jewish company R Elyashiv holds it depends if they are required to honor it or not if they are not required to and they do out of good will there is no issue whatsoever. He added there are those who argue on R' Elyashiv.
So technically there's no difference if you had to lie or not.

Ergel · « **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2015, 09:40:21 AM »

In not sure that it's a lie. Does it say anywhere that you have to be in Denmark or paying with a danish CC? You are just asking to be billed in DKK.

whacked1 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2015, 09:45:20 AM »

Quote from: SamKey on February 15, 2015, 09:35:47 AM

Ok I'll bite, My Rabbi says on this topic that:
A. If a glitch is that of a Jewish company one is required to call up and let them know because of Hashavas Aveidah. One who didn't and purchases such a ticket is Mevatel Issur Asei

Why only mevatel issur asei, and not straight out stealing? Toess yehudy is assur.

high end hobo · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:39:24 AM »

My chavrusa, (who is a rabbi) showed me based off a kuntres achron in Sh'a Harav how this would be assur under gezel Aku'm.
he did say thats just how he saw it, and he isn't a posek

JoeCha · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:41:03 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on February 15, 2015, 09:40:21 AM

In not sure that it's a lie. Does it say anywhere that you have to be in Denmark or paying with a danish CC? You are just asking to be billed in DKK.

They ask you for the billing address. Selecting Denmark is a lie.

Dan · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:43:25 AM »

You didn't select Denmark as your residence. You chose to pay in kroner and entered your US address and zip.

The fact that the country couldn't even be changed from Denmark doesn't make you a liar.

And departing from the UK is a lie? Huh?

@Yehuda · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:59:53 AM »

Didn't have time to talk to my Rav till this morning, and as I suspected, he told me it would be totally fine to take the trip if UA would have honored (perhaps still will honor?

) the ticket. As he's told me about other things, he doesn't see an issue with changing the "location" on a website as the T&C don't normally say there's an issue with that. FWIU UA.com doesn't say anything against changing the location. Like all glitches, he said one could do it and if the company honors it, great and if not, not.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:04:32 AM »

I am floored at the positions some Rabbis are taking.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:05:25 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 15, 2015, 11:04:32 AM

I am floored at the positions some Rabbis are taking.

Why's that?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #39 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:10:34 AM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on February 15, 2015, 11:05:25 AM

Why's that?

I would have thought they would be against anything where you had to use some type of trick. Basically if you can't be 100% honest then don't do it. Is putting Denmark as the country dishonest?