Author Topic: Fire Safety (Read 20920 times)

Dan · « **Reply #140 on:** March 23, 2015, 12:01:39 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on March 23, 2015, 12:00:26 PM

Something to look out for with all the talk about fire alarms:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=442860060974

Doesn't really shock me, when my kids are in deep sleep I can be shaking them and they won't wake.

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #141 on:** March 23, 2015, 12:08:39 PM »

Quote from: Dan on March 23, 2015, 12:01:39 PM

Doesn't really shock me, when my kids are in deep sleep I can be shaking them and they won't wake.

Mine tend to be lighter sleepers, but I think I'll run the fire alarms tonight just to check.

yitzf · « **Reply #142 on:** March 23, 2015, 12:11:25 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on March 23, 2015, 12:00:26 PM

Something to look out for with all the talk about fire alarms:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=442860060974

WOW

-------------------

Quote from: One of the comments

If we made it sound like their phone ringtone they would be up quick!

cozmohoot · « **Reply #143 on:** March 23, 2015, 02:12:05 PM »

Quote from: peacenlove613 on March 23, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

Can you post a screenshot of both? Duel smoke and smoke/co?

For informational purposes only.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PC5THCU/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1427134143&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=dual+smoke+detector&dpPl=1&dpID=41kOvGICg2L&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00004WA4C/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1427134204&sr=8-3&keywords=dual+smoke+detector+and+carbon+monoxide+detector&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=417d3UNZI4L&ref=plSrch

Dan · « **Reply #144 on:** March 23, 2015, 02:17:14 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on March 23, 2015, 12:08:39 PM

Mine tend to be lighter sleepers, but I think I'll run the fire alarms tonight just to check.

Depends when. At 7am they're light sleepers, a tiptoe will do it. But in middle of a deep sleep cycle it's actually a real challenge to wake them.

elit · « **Reply #145 on:** March 23, 2015, 02:25:07 PM »

Quote from: Dan on March 23, 2015, 02:17:14 PM

Depends when. At 7am they're light sleepers, a tiptoe will do it. But in middle of a deep sleep cycle it's actually a real challenge to wake them.

Oh man i wish...

alpicone · « **Reply #146 on:** March 23, 2015, 03:48:23 PM »

No chance me kids would move. I will try tonight and see if they respond at all.

I will also order one with voice alarm to see if that makes a difference.

PTU · « **Reply #147 on:** March 23, 2015, 06:32:50 PM »

Quote from: CS1 on March 23, 2015, 11:30:50 AM

perhaps his question is what can be placed onto it during Shabbos. Wet kugels from the fridge are an issue if the plate gets as high as it says it gets.

Wet kugel? Kugel is a dovor yovesh.

CS1 · « **Reply #148 on:** March 23, 2015, 08:19:27 PM »

Quote from: PTU on March 23, 2015, 06:32:50 PM

Wet kugel? Kugel is a dovor yovesh.

-1
it's dovor losh if it's lukshen kugel from the fridge on Shabbos. It's bishul if it's cold from fridge and then reaches 180+ degrees on a commercial hot plate. Also:

Quote from: lunatic on March 23, 2015, 11:33:43 AM

+1. What is the question

Quote from: avromie7 on March 23, 2015, 11:30:34 AM

As my father told me he heard from r' belsky technically you are allowed to put food on top of the cholent however there is almost always an issue (cooking some liquid)

one can only do place on top of the cholent because it's shinui/not the intention of the pot.
However if the purpose of the commercially bought warming tray is on a timer to turn on at 9am in order to heat up something cold and wet to over 200 degrees on Shabbos, then that's a Halachic bishul issue...

yuneeq · « **Reply #149 on:** March 23, 2015, 08:49:29 PM »

Quote from: CS1 on March 23, 2015, 08:19:27 PM

-1
it's dovor losh if it's lukshen kugel from the fridge on Shabbos. It's bishul if it's cold from fridge and then reaches 180+ degrees on a commercial hot plate. Also:

one can only do place on top of the cholent because it's shinui/not the intention of the pot.
However if the purpose of the commercially bought warming tray is on a timer to turn on at 9am in order to heat up something cold and wet to over 200 degrees on Shabbos, then that's a Halachic bishul issue...

Thank you for paskening.

As you are not everyones rabbi and clearly don't know all the opinions (or just didn't share them), you should refrain from posting such comments.

CS1 · « **Reply #150 on:** March 23, 2015, 09:20:11 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on March 23, 2015, 08:49:29 PM

Thank you for paskening.

As you are not everyones rabbi and clearly don't know all the opinions (or just didn't share them), you should refrain from posting such comments.

I may know over 100 rabbis of all types, and I do not know of a single orthodox rabbi (others may know one) that would permit a cold lukshen kugel to be taken out of a fridge on Shabbos morning to be placed on a hot plate over 300 degrees (as the Amazon one is featured) to be heated to reach over 'yad soledes' on Shabbos. Even by a housekeeper. Even on a timer.

PTU · « **Reply #151 on:** March 23, 2015, 10:00:14 PM »

Quote from: CS1 on March 23, 2015, 09:20:11 PM

I may know over 100 rabbis of all types, and I do not know of a single orthodox rabbi (others may know one) that would permit a cold lukshen kugel to be taken out of a fridge on Shabbos morning to be placed on a hot plate over 300 degrees (as the Amazon one is featured) to be heated to reach over 'yad soledes' on Shabbos. Even by a housekeeper. Even on a timer.

I just said that kugel is called a dovor yovesh.
Dovor yovesh does not mean bone dry. You wouldn't find a reasonable posek who can classify any normal kukel as non dovor yovesh.

Sport · « **Reply #152 on:** March 23, 2015, 10:10:31 PM »

Quote from: CS1 on March 23, 2015, 09:20:11 PM

I may know over 100 rabbis of all types, and I do not know of a single orthodox rabbi (others may know one) that would permit a cold lukshen kugel to be taken out of a fridge on Shabbos morning to be placed on a hot plate over 300 degrees (as the Amazon one is featured) to be heated to reach over 'yad soledes' on Shabbos. Even by a housekeeper. Even on a timer.

Pretty sure the only issue with putting the Kugel directly on the hot plate is nerah kmevashel, not actually cooking. This issue does not exist with a crock pot because none cooks in such a method.
I don't see any distinction between potato and luchnien kugel in regards to this.

yuneeq · « **Reply #153 on:** March 24, 2015, 12:18:46 AM »

Quote from: CS1 on March 23, 2015, 09:20:11 PM

I may know over 100 rabbis of all types, and I do not know of a single orthodox rabbi (others may know one) that would permit a cold lukshen kugel to be taken out of a fridge on Shabbos morning to be placed on a hot plate over 300 degrees (as the Amazon one is featured) to be heated to reach over 'yad soledes' on Shabbos. Even by a housekeeper. Even on a timer.

Shulchan Aruch good enough?

TimT · « **Reply #154 on:** March 24, 2015, 05:02:01 AM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on March 23, 2015, 12:08:39 PM

Mine tend to be lighter sleepers, but I think I'll run the fire alarms tonight just to check.

Quote from: alpicone on March 23, 2015, 03:48:23 PM

No chance me kids would move. I will try tonight and see if they respond at all.

Did it wake them ?

alpicone · « **Reply #155 on:** March 24, 2015, 02:03:35 PM »

Quote from: TimT on March 24, 2015, 05:02:01 AM

Did it wake them ?

Ha. Thanks for the reminder. Went to home depot last night instead and got back late.

Will try tonight.

yesitsme · « **Reply #156 on:** March 24, 2015, 02:35:10 PM »

i just noticed i dont have a smoke detector it only detects carbon monoxide if the batteries would work

cozmohoot · « **Reply #157 on:** March 24, 2015, 07:24:32 PM »

Please get one.

yesitsme · « **Reply #158 on:** March 24, 2015, 07:39:00 PM »

@KolHaolam: BROOKLYN: Beginning tomorrow 'The Buzz' will be giving out free smoke detectors, following tragedy which claimed lives of 7 children.

CS1 · « **Reply #159 on:** March 24, 2015, 07:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on March 23, 2015, 12:08:39 PM

Mine tend to be lighter sleepers, but I think I'll run the fire alarms tonight just to check.

sounds slightly torturous. Will you warn them in advance? (before they go to sleep?)

Topic Wiki

Author Topic: Fire Safety (Read 20920 times)