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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2015, 09:26:08 PM »
It's actually a lot safer than that, while the number of incidents has gone down considerably, the number of flights has gone up exponentially, so percentage-wise the number of incidents has plummeted.

Right. And if you look at the incidents, the rate of survival is much higher now. It's actually amazing how safe air travel is now...

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2015, 09:45:45 PM »
Oh great, the Pilot was Malaysian! Anning Wong being named as pilot of doomed #Germanwings plane #4U9525 https://t.co/8ViYUOiU5S

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2015, 10:05:04 PM »
Oh great, the Pilot was Malaysian! Anning Wong being named as pilot of doomed #Germanwings plane #4U9525 https://t.co/8ViYUOiU5S
Something is very weird, according to here he's a pilot for Air Baltic...
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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2015, 10:25:33 PM »
Also where did you get that he's Malaysian? Looks Chinese to me...
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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2015, 10:25:54 PM »
Here's a video about the A320 cockpit door unlocking procedure. 



Can lead to the conclusion that this was a malicious act...

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2015, 10:44:50 PM »
Here's a video about the A320 cockpit door unlocking procedure. 



Can lead to the conclusion that this was a malicious act...

Wow. Interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2015, 10:47:42 PM »
Here's a video about the A320 cockpit door unlocking procedure. 



Can lead to the conclusion that this was a malicious act...

Based on this video, the only way this can NOT be a malicious act is if the pilot in the cockpit was incapacitated and nobody in the crew remembered the emergency code.  They'll know that based on the buzzer sounds in the cockpit.   

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2015, 10:54:25 PM »
While pilot suicide seems the most likely now it still sounds kinda strange. If I were a suicidal pilot wanting to take a plane down I would probably just put it into a roll and have it hit the ground in 30 seconds (sort of like EgyptAir Flight 990) before anyone knew what hit them. Why did he put the plane into a controlled 8 minute descent giving the pilot and crew plenty of time to try and stop him?
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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2015, 11:03:03 PM »
While pilot suicide seems the most likely now it still sounds kinda strange. If I were a suicidal pilot wanting to take a plane down I would probably just put it into a roll and have it hit the ground in 30 seconds (sort of like EgyptAir Flight 990) before anyone knew what hit them. Why did he put the plane into a controlled 8 minute descent giving the pilot and crew plenty of time to try and stop him?

I believe the Airbus system wouldn't allow that.  Such an attempt would get overridden...

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2015, 11:07:47 PM »
I believe the Airbus system wouldn't allow that.  Such an attempt would get overridden...

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I believe you are correct, you just completed the last piece of the puzzle for me (EgytAir 990 was a Boeing 767)
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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2015, 11:10:02 PM »
I believe you are correct, you just completed the last piece of the puzzle for me (EgytAir 990 was a Boeing 767)

And Air France was the opposite problem.  The pilot was pulling back on the joystick during a stall without realizing what he was doing until it was too late.  They've probably mitigated that scenario as well since then.

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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2015, 11:20:57 PM »
And Air France was the opposite problem.  The pilot was pulling back on the joystick during a stall without realizing what he was doing until it was too late.  They've probably mitigated that scenario as well since then.
Air France was an Airbus but that fight has a problem with a faulty sensor so the plane switched to manual.
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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2015, 07:48:19 AM »
Not looking good:



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Re: Germanwings flight 4U-9525 crashes in France
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2015, 08:29:48 AM »

Not looking good:



What would be good at this point?