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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4100 on: November 18, 2019, 11:43:55 PM »
I am sorry, Debating Chassidim over Litfickes is fun, Messianicism in Chabad can be fun, Satmar over Zionism too, and of course all the 3 sides within each fraction as well, but I don't think anyone here is in the mood of debating Judaism over Christianity, so lets just stop here!

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4101 on: November 18, 2019, 11:47:09 PM »
I am sorry, Debating Chassidim over Litfickes is fun, Messianicism in Chabad can be fun, Satmar over Zionism too, and of course all the 3 sides within each fraction as well, but I don't think anyone here is in the mood of debating Judaism over Christianity, so lets just stop here!
Who is debating that?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4102 on: November 18, 2019, 11:48:05 PM »
I would estimate it at less than 0.2%
Source: http://globalreligiousfutures.org/religions/jews
You just proved you can't use common sense.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4103 on: November 18, 2019, 11:48:30 PM »
Who is debating that?
I was going to ask the same thing.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4104 on: November 18, 2019, 11:48:52 PM »
Who is debating that?
The first one was not a question.  :P
Since you claim to be using common sense then let me ask this. What is the probability that any one persons religion is the one true religion if there is such a thing?
I would estimate it at less than 0.2%
Source: http://globalreligiousfutures.org/religions/jews

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4105 on: November 18, 2019, 11:54:58 PM »
The first one was not a question.  :P
Since you claim to be using common sense then let me ask this. What is the probability that any one persons religion is the one true religion if there is such a thing?
the probability is %100

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4106 on: November 18, 2019, 11:56:00 PM »
You just proved you can't use common sense.
Can't?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4107 on: November 18, 2019, 11:57:06 PM »
the probability is %100
With that kind of math you must be a Trumpster?  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4108 on: November 18, 2019, 11:58:04 PM »
Can't?
Why is that difficult to understand?
Would "won't" be a better word to use?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4109 on: November 19, 2019, 12:05:10 AM »
With that kind of math you must be a Trumpster?  :)
in other words i dont have a doubt that there is one true religion. which is a view i believe is shared with most of the members here and most if not all religious ppl

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4110 on: November 19, 2019, 12:10:21 AM »
in other words i dont have a doubt that there is one true religion. which is a view i believe is shared with most of the members here and most if not all religious ppl
We all believe the religion we practice is the one true religion. That is not what I asked. If you use common sense we know that can't be true unless even though we believe our religions are different they are actually one in the same.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4111 on: November 19, 2019, 12:12:50 AM »
We all believe the religion we practice is the one true religion. That is not what I asked. If you use common sense we know that can't be true unless even though we believe our religions are different they are actually one in the same.
what cant be true? that there is on true religion or that everybody is right? :o

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4112 on: November 19, 2019, 12:15:58 AM »
what cant be true? that there is on true religion or that everybody is right? :o
They can both be wrong, right or one wrong and the other right. We mere mortals have no way of knowing.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4113 on: November 19, 2019, 12:16:51 AM »

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4114 on: November 19, 2019, 12:18:25 AM »

Common sense tells me the odds of any one of us being correct are not very good, hence the probability question.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4115 on: November 19, 2019, 12:21:04 AM »
Common sense tells me the odds of any one of us being correct are not very good, hence the probability question.
It's not a question of odds. If you believe entirely in your religion then you think it's true and follow it. If you think the truth has to do with the odds then you don't really believe in it.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4116 on: November 19, 2019, 12:22:56 AM »
The first one was not a question.  :P
Since you claim to be using common sense then let me ask this. What is the probability that any one persons religion is the one true religion if there is such a thing?
now that i see what you are asking .. how in the world do you purpose to grade the probability of that (besides what my or your opinion is)

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4117 on: November 19, 2019, 12:32:19 AM »
So their mission is to do what they believe G-d wants them to do and that is the issue?
The issue is that their goal is to proselytize and use their humanitarian services to further that goal. Supporting the salvation army is supporting an organization that has the stated mission of proselytizing to Jews, all the good work they may do notwithstanding.

The fact they they believe they are doing the right thing and have every right to do so doesn't mean I have to give them money.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4118 on: November 19, 2019, 12:34:17 AM »
It's not a question of odds. If you believe entirely in your religion then you think it's true and follow it. If you think the truth has to do with the odds then you don't really believe in it.
I am not questioning anyone's beliefs or their religion. I assume anyone who practices a religion believes their religion is the one true religion. This is where common sense tells me that some are wrong or maybe we are all right but as mere mortals will not be able to understand.

Anyway this has been beaten to death and it is not even Friday.  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4119 on: November 19, 2019, 12:37:43 AM »
The issue is that their goal is to proselytize and use their humanitarian services to further that goal. Supporting the salvation army is supporting an organization that has the stated mission of proselytizing to Jews, all the good work they may do notwithstanding.

The fact they they believe they are doing the right thing and have every right to do so doesn't mean I have to give them money.
I am glad you brought that point up (proselytizing) and it is valid. I personally don't see an issue with it but understand why other religions would.
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