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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4160 on: December 07, 2019, 09:29:29 PM »
When Lavan encountered Rochel sitting on the saddle. Was the saddle mounted on the camel, or was it used as a seat inside the tent?
Which word means saddle?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4161 on: December 07, 2019, 09:41:29 PM »
Which word means saddle?
   רש"י
   בכר הגמל. לשון כרים וכסתות כתרגומו בעביטא דגמלא והיא מרדעת העשויה כמין כר ובעירובין (דף יז) הקיפוה בעביטין והן עביטי גמלים בסט"ו בלע"ז (זאטטעל):

Found in various prints, though some research seems to indicate that מרדעת is soft padding that goes under the saddle (is the saddle or padding used on camels substantially different than what might be used on a horse or a donkey?).

https://www.aramcoworld.com/Articles/November-2018/The-Art-of-Saddling-A-Camel
« Last Edit: December 07, 2019, 09:46:51 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4162 on: December 07, 2019, 10:32:00 PM »
רש"י
בכר הגמל. לשון כרים וכסתות כתרגומו בעביטא דגמלא והיא מרדעת העשויה כמין כר ובעירובין (דף יז) הקיפוה בעביטין והן עביטי גמלים בסט"ו בלע"ז (זאטטעל):

Found in various prints, though some research seems to indicate that מרדעת is soft padding that goes under the saddle (is the saddle or padding used on camels substantially different than what might be used on a horse or a donkey?).

https://www.aramcoworld.com/Articles/November-2018/The-Art-of-Saddling-A-Camel
No matter the Print that word is not from Rashi. It sounds much more like a cushion.
It doesn't answer your question though.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4163 on: December 07, 2019, 10:37:42 PM »
No matter the Print that word is not from Rashi. It sounds much more like a cushion.
It doesn't answer your question though.

The Yiddish is definitely not from Rashi, but as you correctly state, whether a saddle, a cushion, or something else that is usually mounted on a camel, my question isn't answered.

The Eben Ezra seems to be the only one to (possibly) address this by stating that Rochel wasn't in the tent. I'm not sure everyone agrees.

A brief unscientific survey in Shul today seemed to have initial results at about 60/40 leaning towards being on top of the camel. Following some of my questioning some people changed their mind and it was more evenly split.


ETA: While the Yiddish isn't from Rashi, the Old French word is and seems to translate as saddle or pack saddle.
https://en.glosbe.com/en/fro/saddle
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4164 on: December 13, 2019, 12:32:04 PM »
Right next to our Brooklyn DO there was another Jewish community I would call "ultra" that I drove through going back to NYC. Which one would that be?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4165 on: December 13, 2019, 12:33:01 PM »
Right next to our Brooklyn DO there was another Jewish community I would call "ultra" that I drove through going back to NYC. Which one would that be?
How did you drive back to NYC? Which bridge or tunnel?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4166 on: December 13, 2019, 12:36:48 PM »
How did you drive back to NYC? Which bridge or tunnel?
Not sure as I just followed GPS. Bridge going to Brooklyn and tunnel on the way back.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4167 on: December 13, 2019, 12:46:00 PM »
Right next to our Brooklyn DO there was another Jewish community I would call "ultra" that I drove through going back to NYC. Which one would that be?
Williamsburg?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4168 on: December 13, 2019, 12:48:25 PM »
Williamsburg?
That must be it as I think one of the streets was Williamsburg Dr. Would that community be considered ultra orthodox or is that opening up another can of worms?  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4169 on: December 13, 2019, 01:02:26 PM »
That must be it as I think one of the streets was Williamsburg Dr. Would that community be considered ultra orthodox or is that opening up another can of worms?  :)
Youre fine as long as you don’t mention the Z word ;)

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4170 on: December 13, 2019, 01:04:28 PM »
Youre fine as long as you don’t mention the Z word ;)
Is the second letter "i"?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4171 on: December 13, 2019, 01:09:56 PM »
Is the second letter "i"?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4172 on: December 13, 2019, 01:13:55 PM »
I’ll even give you an O for $200
Ok I got it.  >:(
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4173 on: December 13, 2019, 01:14:04 PM »
Not sure as I just followed GPS. Bridge going to Brooklyn and tunnel on the way back.
Where was the DO?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4174 on: December 13, 2019, 01:16:11 PM »
Where was the DO?
World famous Mermelstein's!!!
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4175 on: December 13, 2019, 01:21:26 PM »
World famous Mermelstein's!!!
So I'd guess Williamsburg, and the answer to your question would be yes

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4176 on: December 13, 2019, 01:24:10 PM »
So I'd guess Williamsburg, and the answer to your question would be yes
Now my next question. Are their hats real expensive? They all had plastic on them because it was drizzling outside.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4177 on: December 13, 2019, 01:27:19 PM »
Now my next question. Are their hats real expensive? They all had plastic on them because it was drizzling outside.
Anywhere from $100-$200. The hat plastic is .50-$1

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4178 on: December 13, 2019, 01:29:56 PM »
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #4179 on: December 13, 2019, 01:30:22 PM »
Anywhere from $100-$200. The hat plastic is .50-$1
That's not cheap so I guess I would protect it to. Was just kind of funny to see.
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