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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2520 on: December 20, 2017, 10:13:49 PM »
Would this be accurate?
Jewish philosophy stresses that free will is a product of the intrinsic human soul, using the word neshama (from the Hebrew root n.sh.m. or .נ.ש.מ meaning "breath"), but the ability to make a free choice is through Yechida (from Hebrew word "yachid", יחיד, singular), the part of the soul that is united with God,[citation needed] the only being that is not hindered by or dependent on cause and effect (thus, freedom of will does not belong to the realm of the physical reality, and inability of natural philosophy to account for it is expected).
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2521 on: December 20, 2017, 10:14:26 PM »
Would this be accurate?
Jewish philosophy stresses that free will is a product of the intrinsic human soul, using the word neshama (from the Hebrew root n.sh.m. or .נ.ש.מ meaning "breath"), but the ability to make a free choice is through Yechida (from Hebrew word "yachid", יחיד, singular), the part of the soul that is united with God,[citation needed] the only being that is not hindered by or dependent on cause and effect (thus, freedom of will does not belong to the realm of the physical reality, and inability of natural philosophy to account for it is expected).
I'm guessing that that's a quote from somewhere?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2522 on: December 20, 2017, 10:14:54 PM »
I have no idea what that is saying.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2523 on: December 20, 2017, 10:15:14 PM »
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2524 on: December 20, 2017, 10:18:33 PM »
Maybe this is an easier one, divine providence?
Yes or no?  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2525 on: December 20, 2017, 10:25:00 PM »
Thank you. With a "sort of" I have to take that as no to 100% free will. I am not trying to pin you down or argue.
This is not my area of expertise, but my understanding is that the Jewish concept of free will does not require it to be absolute.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2526 on: December 20, 2017, 10:25:32 PM »
Maybe this is an easier one, divine providence?
Yes or no?  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2527 on: December 20, 2017, 10:27:45 PM »
This is not my area of expertise, but my understanding is that the Jewish concept of free will does not require it to be absolute.
Thanks. Jewish Learning has a nice explanation. Hope it is accurate.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/free-will-in-judaism-101/

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2528 on: December 20, 2017, 10:29:26 PM »
-Everything, good or bad, is from Gds hand. We can't explain his reasoning, though if we're lucky, things might make sense to us later in life.
-There is no Satan that has power on its own, it's only because Gd lets a satan exist..
-If I am watching an avalanche from afar and see someone walking right into it, am I hindering his free will because I know what is about to happen?
« Last Edit: December 20, 2017, 10:33:53 PM by Dan »
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2529 on: December 20, 2017, 10:32:45 PM »
-Everything, good or bad, is from Gds hand. We can't explain his reasoning, though if we're lucky thing might make sense to us later in life.
-There is no Satan that has power on its own, it's only because Gd lets a satan exist..
-If I am watching an avalanche from afar and see someone walking right into it, am I hindering his free will because I know what is about to happen?
To your question, no. I am just trying to understand if you believe in 100% free will. It is clear to me now.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2530 on: December 20, 2017, 10:36:21 PM »
The miracle was Trump winning the presidency.  :)

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2531 on: December 20, 2017, 10:39:04 PM »
The miracle was Trump winning the presidency.  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2532 on: December 20, 2017, 10:52:02 PM »
The miracle was Trump winning the presidency.  :)
And to think, the whole point of him winning the election was just so one Lubavitcher could go free  ;D
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2533 on: December 20, 2017, 10:53:25 PM »
And to think, the whole point of him winning the election was just so one Lubavitcher could go free  ;D
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2534 on: December 20, 2017, 10:54:12 PM »
So is he done now so he can go back to bankrupting businesses?
I don't think too many people would be shocked to see Pence finish this presidency. What are the Vegas odds on it? 8:1?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2535 on: December 20, 2017, 10:55:08 PM »
The miracle was Trump winning the presidency.  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2536 on: December 20, 2017, 10:56:13 PM »
I don't think too many people would be shocked to see Pence finish this presidency. What are the Vegas odds on it? 8:1?
After every R's under the sun got done sucking up today the odds are over 1000:1.  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2537 on: December 20, 2017, 10:57:17 PM »
After every R's under the sun got done sucking up today the odds are over 1000:1.  :)
I'd take 1000:1 any day. Where do I bet $100 on that  ;D
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2538 on: December 20, 2017, 10:59:39 PM »
I'd take 1000:1 any day. Where do I bet $100 on that  ;D
I will check when I am in LAS next month. That will be almost two full months I have not visited.  :)
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #2539 on: December 20, 2017, 11:18:48 PM »


And to think, the whole point of him winning the election was just so one Lubavitcher could go free  ;D



-Everything, good or bad, is from Gds hand. We can't explain his reasoning, though if we're lucky, things might make sense to us later in life.

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