Random questions.

[zh cohen]

where is the פארביסנקייט from?

You should give these comments the same weight you would give to the high school kid who thinks he "destroyed" religion by coming up with the question of theodicy.

[ExGingi]

It's not "mine". There is only one religion here and more importantly only one single GD.
Jews have been slaughtered with the word Echad forever. It's no trivial minhag.

The belief in shituf is not some cute hanhaga. It is evil.

The only issue is that I'm not sure you are even aware what אחד means. You could start by learning שער היחוד והאמונה, or maybe even @Dan's favorite maamar will open up your eyes a bit.

And before you start using words like shituf, check out https://he.m.wikisource.org/wiki/זהר_חלק_ב_לח_א

[AussieMan]

@ExGingi do you not agree with @churnbabychurn that its keffira or similar to say 12 shvat is r"h lachasidus.
We know it's 19 kislev, vishnitz can't come now and change things...
Unless it's a machlokes which day it is, like the 4 r"h mentioned in the mishna

[ExGingi]

@ExGingi do you not agree with @churnbabychurn that its keffira or similar to say 12 shvat is r"h lachasidus.
We know it's 19 kislev, vishnitz can't come now and change things...
Unless it's a machlokes which day it is, like the 4 r"h mentioned in the mishna

I don't think (do we have any Vizhnitzers here to correct me if I'm wrong?) that anyone is claiming 12 Shvat to be anything but R"H of a specific branch of Vizhnitz. It is the "birthday" and important day for that branch.

Doesn't contradict the fact that 19th of kislev is R"H of (toras ha)Chassidus.

[AussieMan]

I once heard r' yoel farbreng, how R"H isn't a light term to throw around.

I believe it was in response to new mashpiim calling yud shvat r"h le'hiskashrus. He said that you lose sensitivity to everything when you make up new r"h for everything.
R"H isn't a celebration, it's the head, the day you get chayus for the whole year. You ave to be a Rebbe to make a day into that.

On that note, I believe it says somewhere in that shevii shel pesach is rosh hashana for mesirus nefesh, do you know where that is?

[MeirS]

Huh? Where to start? Maybe just the targum.

Our mashgichim have taught us that someone who does not want to be a maamin will bring proof from the actual source of the emuna for his kefira... It's all up to you.

Oy vey!

Are you now going to let Targum Unkelus and Mashgichim influence your pure belief in the Torah??

Whatever it says in the Torah is 100% true and allowing anyone to make you think otherwise is borderline Shituf.

[churnbabychurn]

The only issue is that I'm not sure you are even aware what אחד means. You could start by learning שער היחוד והאמונה, or maybe even @Dan's favorite maamar will open up your eyes a bit.

And before you start using words like shituf, check out https://he.m.wikisource.org/wiki/זהר_חלק_ב_לח_א

I know what singular means. If you think this is open to interpretation of plurality I wouldn't drink your wine.

Ever Jewish child knows there is one GD and he is not melubash in any individual ever. You can quote whatever you want but this is not even open for discussion. You may just be confusing yourself.

I have no interest in hearing what you really believe on this... So let's just drop it.

The items you are already quoting in your belief are extremely troubling.. let's stop now.

[yesitsme]

OMG just bumped into this one
ויאמינו בה' ובמשה

[churnbabychurn]

OMG just bumped into this one
ויאמינו בה' ובמשה

What exactly are you people saying?
Do you guys seriously understand this possuk to mean something like this:

" that God is one God, but TWO coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father,  and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in tWO Divine Persons". The TWO Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).[4] In this context, a "nature" is what one is, whereas a "person" is who one is.[5][6][7] Sometimes differing views are referred to as nontrinitarian. "

Beyond heartbreaking to confirm this is your belief system.

[ExGingi]

What exactly are you people saying?
Do you guys seriously understand this possuk to mean something like this:

" that God is one God, but TWO coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father,  and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in tWO Divine Persons". The TWO Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).[4] In this context, a "nature" is what one is, whereas a "person" is who one is.[5][6][7] Sometimes differing views are referred to as nontrinitarian. "

Beyond heartbreaking to confirm this is your belief system.

I don't think anyone other than yourself reads into this as such.

[Definitions]

I don't know where else to ask this.

Someone I know was born in Israel (~1960) she moved to America when she was 1 years old. As of now she has two passports and I believe is a citizen in both countries.

From past experiences she told me that whenever she flew to Israel they made problems about the army or something.

Does anybody know what is needed in order for her to be able to travel to Israel smoothly? (Thinking of booking those flights on sale now)

[ExGingi]

I don't know where else to ask this.

Someone I know was born in Israel (~1960) she moved to America when she was 1 years old. As of now she has two passports and I believe is a citizen in both countries.

From past experiences she told me that whenever she flew to Israel they made problems about the army or something.

Does anybody know what is needed in order for her to be able to travel to Israel smoothly? (Thinking of booking those flights on sale now)

An Israeli citizen who left the State of Israel prior to age 12 (IINM) and hasn't resided or spent more than 90 days per year since then (might actually be even less than that) is exempt from military service. If she can have documentation on hand to prove that claim, and be armed with the knowledge of the law (and maybe even have a copy of such along with her) she should be OK.

[Definitions]

An Israeli citizen who left the State of Israel prior to age 12 (IINM) and hasn't resided or spent more than 90 days per year since then (might actually be even less than that) is exempt from military service. If she can have documentation on hand to prove that claim, and be armed with the knowledge of the law (and maybe even have a copy of such along with her) she should be OK.

What type of documentation would be good proof?

[churnbabychurn]

I don't think anyone other than yourself reads into this as such.

So to wrap this up, to confirm, that NOT what you believe?

[cmey]

They are following the well trodden path of chabbad.

They are full of minus RC"L.

The end.

You are a few hundred years too late. The Gr”a already cast the chassidim as kofrim due to their understanding of צמצום, and it’s likely that the chassidim would have likewise considered the Gra’s understanding of צמצום כפשוטו......

[zh cohen]

You are a few hundred years too late. The Gr”a already cast the chassidim as kofrim due to the false testimony given to him, and it’s likely that the chassidim would have likewise considered the Gra’s understanding of צמצום כפשוטו......

FTFY

And the mainstream frum world today (starting from the Nefesh Ha'Chaim) don't hold of the shita of the GR"A and hold (at least closer) to the shita of chassidus

[chinagel]

is this the Reincarnation of CM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29995

[cmey]

FTFY

And the mainstream frum world today (starting from the Nefesh Ha'Chaim) don't hold of the shita of the GR"A and hold (at least closer) to the shita of chassidus

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The Gra directly addressed the shita of צמצום in considering them kofrim in one of the letters. That’s not to say there were no other factors.

[ExGingi]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The Gra directly addressed the shita of צמצום in considering them kofrim in one of the letters. That’s not to say there were no other factors.

Since you seem to be such an expert, why don't you give a synopsis of both שיטות.

[myi]

is this the Reincarnation of CM
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