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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3660 on: January 20, 2019, 01:10:37 AM »
I was sure that @churnbabychurn and @ExGingy were going to change their positions after this....

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3661 on: January 20, 2019, 01:20:29 AM »
OMG just bumped into this one
ויאמינו בה' ובמשה
What exactly are you people saying?
Do you guys seriously understand this possuk to mean something like this: ???

" that God is one God, but TWO coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father,  and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in tWO Divine Persons". The TWO Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).[4] In this context, a "nature" is what one is, whereas a "person" is who one is.[5][6][7] Sometimes differing views are referred to as nontrinitarian. "

Beyond heartbreaking to confirm this is your belief system.
Could you please explain the possuk and if its something positive?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3662 on: January 20, 2019, 02:05:10 AM »
Since you seem to be such an expert, why don't you give a synopsis of both שיטות.

הרבה קולמוסים כבר נשתברו

For example, here’s a little light reading on the inyan:
http://forum.otzar.org/download/file.php?id=24437&sid=ebd1895c37d16296d753aac0ed74ae94

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3663 on: January 20, 2019, 08:09:15 AM »
You are a few hundred years too late. The Gr”a already cast the chassidim as kofrim due to their understanding of צמצום, and it’s likely that the chassidim would have likewise considered the Gra’s understanding of צמצום כפשוטו......
Y'all just trying to muddy the water and change the topic.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3664 on: January 20, 2019, 08:10:01 AM »
What exactly are you people saying?
Do you guys seriously understand this possuk to mean something like this: ???

" that God is one God, but TWO coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father,  and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in tWO Divine Persons". The TWO Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).[4] In this context, a "nature" is what one is, whereas a "person" is who one is.[5][6][7] Sometimes differing views are referred to as nontrinitarian. "

Beyond heartbreaking to confirm this is your belief system.

Could you please explain the possuk and if its something positive?
First confirm that this is how you understand it.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3665 on: January 20, 2019, 08:34:41 AM »
First confirm that this is how you understand it.
We've already established that YOU are the only one who understands it like that.

I.e. You are the only one turning to Christian theology to try understand or explain things, modifying it slightly to better fit your beliefs, rather than actually checking out authentic Jewish sources.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 08:37:55 AM by ExGingi »
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3666 on: January 20, 2019, 08:52:36 AM »
הרבה קולמוסים כבר נשתברו

For example, here’s a little light reading on the inyan:
http://forum.otzar.org/download/file.php?id=24437&sid=ebd1895c37d16296d753aac0ed74ae94
הרבה שוטים נתבלבלו

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3667 on: January 20, 2019, 08:53:10 AM »
Hey mods, maybe this topic should be pruned and put into a thread titled "CBC's musings about what he believes to be other people's thoughts, beliefs and understanding".

You can then add grafts from quite a few other threads, making that thread rival the politics thread in length.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3668 on: January 20, 2019, 08:54:20 AM »
We've already established that YOU are the only one who understands it like that.

I.e. You are the only one turning to Christian theology to try understand or explain things, modifying it slightly to better fit your beliefs, rather than actually checking out authentic Jewish sources.
Me? I understand that this is *your* belief. And the fact that you all are evasively noncommittal on it either way is corroborating my well founded suspicion.


To me it is all total hogwash - I wouldnt dream of "trying to understand". It is yehareg Val yaavor.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3669 on: January 20, 2019, 08:56:37 AM »
Hey mods, maybe this topic should be pruned and put into a thread titled "CBC's musings about what he believes to be other people's thoughts, beliefs and understanding".

You can then add grafts from quite a few other threads, making that thread rival the politics thread in length.
It doesn't have to be a thread. You could of denied it and vaytur.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3670 on: January 20, 2019, 09:33:16 AM »
Me? I understand that this is *your* belief. And the fact that you all are evasively noncommittal on it either way is corroborating my well founded suspicion.


To me it is all total hogwash - I wouldnt dream of "trying to understand". It is yehareg Val yaavor.

Your world view seems to be מצומצום כפשוטו
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3671 on: January 20, 2019, 10:26:56 AM »
If a phone screen is already webbed but still works perfectly, would the web spread without you doing anything like a car windshield or if you take care of it (not drop it and such) will it stay the same?
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3672 on: January 20, 2019, 10:30:07 AM »
If a phone screen is already webbed but still works perfectly, would the web spread without you doing anything like a car windshield or if you take care of it (not drop it and such) will it stay the same?
Probably varies by screen, but it should stay the same for the most part, as long as it's treated well. Put a good screen protector on it to hold it together. A car windshield has pressure being put on it every time you drive, so it's a bit more of an extreme case.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3673 on: January 20, 2019, 11:14:13 AM »
Me? I understand that this is *your* belief. And the fact that you all are evasively noncommittal on it either way is corroborating my well founded suspicion.
What is " evasively non-committal" about this?

I don't think anyone other than yourself reads into this as such.

We've already established that YOU are the only one who understands it like that.

Also, when will you stop beating your wife?


To me it is all total hogwash - I wouldnt dream of "trying to understand". It is yehareg Val yaavor.

Yet, you seem to have  no problem quoting Christian theology...

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #3674 on: January 20, 2019, 01:06:19 PM »
What is " evasively non-committal" about this?

Also, when will you stop beating your wife?

Yet, you seem to have  no problem quoting Christian theology...
He says it was "already established". He and no one else has denied that this is the belief. Read the thread.