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CountValentine · « **Reply #4000 on:** October 10, 2019, 02:43:58 PM »

Quote from: whYME on October 10, 2019, 11:10:29 AM

I should probably wait until tomorrow to comment on this...

Lets start early.

whYME · « **Reply #4001 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:19:19 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 10, 2019, 02:43:58 PM

Lets start early.

Well I guess I'll at least get a head start on the morning...

Quote from: grodnoking on October 10, 2019, 12:55:03 AM

atheism is the absence of religion

I would argue that Atheism is just as much a religion as Judaism, Christianity, etc.

It's one thing to be agnostic, to say that you can't prove it either way. That's at least a fair argument.

But to say that core atheist beliefs such as that what the universe was created all on it's own completely by chance with the big bang, or Darwin's theory of the evolution of species is any more supported by science than the belief in intelligent design is simply a lie.

The odds of these things working by chance are so infinitesmally small that accepting it as fact can only be described as a religious, rather than scientific belief.

And this usually goes together with the religion of global warming a but that was supposed to be last week's PC

ExGingi · « **Reply #4002 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:28:10 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:19:19 AM

Well I guess I'll at least get a head start on the morning...

I would argue that Atheism is just as much a religion as Judaism, Christianity, etc.

It's one thing to be agnostic, to say that you can't prove it either way. That's at least a fair argument.

But to say that core atheist beliefs such as that what the universe was created all on it's own completely by chance with the big bang, or Darwin's theory of the evolution of species is any more supported by science than the belief in intelligent design is simply a lie.

The odds of these things working by chance are so infinitesmally small that accepting it as fact can only be described as a religious, rather than scientific belief.

And this usually goes together with the religion of global warming a but that was supposed to be last week's PC

Not sure why you think this is something you need to argue. These are simple facts and dictionary definitions.

EliJelly · « **Reply #4003 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:28:17 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:19:19 AM

Well I guess I'll at least get a head start on the morning...

I would argue that Atheism is just as much a religion as Judaism, Christianity, etc.

It's one thing to be agnostic, to say that you can't prove it either way. That's at least a fair argument.

But to say that core atheist beliefs such as that what the universe was created all on it's own completely by chance with the big bang, or Darwin's theory of the evolution of species is any more supported by science than the belief in intelligent design is simply a lie.

The odds of these things working by chance are so infinitesmally small that accepting it as fact can only be described as a religious, rather than scientific belief.

And this usually goes together with the religion of global warming a but that was supposed to be last week's PC

Religiously anti religion

aygart · « **Reply #4004 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:29:42 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:19:19 AM

Well I guess I'll at least get a head start on the morning...

I would argue that Atheism is just as much a religion as Judaism, Christianity, etc.

It's one thing to be agnostic, to say that you can't prove it either way. That's at least a fair argument.

But to say that core atheist beliefs such as that what the universe was created all on it's own completely by chance with the big bang, or Darwin's theory of the evolution of species is any more supported by science than the belief in intelligent design is simply a lie.

The odds of these things working by chance are so infinitesmally small that accepting it as fact can only be described as a religious, rather than scientific belief.

And this usually goes together with the religion of global warming a but that was supposed to be last week's PC

I'm sure a discussion of the idiosyncrasies of the English language and rules of capitalization are going to really pop.

ExGingi · « **Reply #4005 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:30:37 AM »

Some PC never goes stale.

whYME · « **Reply #4006 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:32:23 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on October 11, 2019, 01:28:10 AM

Not sure why you think this is something you need to argue.

Well it's DDF, it's Friday, and (presumably) @CountValentine will be involved. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we need to argue. I think it's in the rules somewhere

EliJelly · « **Reply #4007 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:36:32 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:32:23 AM

Well it's DDF, it's Friday, and (presumably) @CountValentine will be involved. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we need to argue. I think it's in the rules somewhere

I think @CountValentine won't argue on this, I believe he's a frum religious good Christian..

whYME · « **Reply #4008 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:37:51 AM »

Quote from: EliJelly on October 11, 2019, 01:36:32 AM

I think @CountValentine won't argue on this, I believe he's a frum religious good Christian..

Since when does he argue only the side he actually believes?

ExGingi · « **Reply #4009 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:38:49 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:32:23 AM

Well it's DDF, it's Friday, and (presumably) @CountValentine will be involved. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we need to argue. I think it's in the rules somewhere

All of that being true, still doesn't explain why argue about atheism (does it need to be capitalized) being a religion (and for some reason my impression is that's its believers tend to be more arrogant and condescending than those of other religions).

EliJelly · « **Reply #4010 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:41:18 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:37:51 AM

Since when does he argue only the side he actually believes?

Lol, we'll wait and see, unless someone else plays the atheist side first, then CV can argue with him more comfortably..

whYME · « **Reply #4011 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:41:43 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on October 11, 2019, 01:38:49 AM

All of that being true, still doesn't explain why argue about atheism (does it need to be capitalized) being a religion (and for some reason my impression is that's its believers tend to be more arrogant and condescending than those of other religions).

Ok, I see it's time for me to go to sleep. I'll try reading this again in the morning when I'm actually awake and I'll see if it makes sense to me then.

ExGingi · « **Reply #4012 on:** October 11, 2019, 01:42:29 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:41:43 AM

Ok, I see it's time for me to go to sleep. I'll try reading this again in the morning when I'm actually awake and I'll see if it makes sense to me then.

+1

aygart · « **Reply #4013 on:** October 11, 2019, 07:51:03 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:41:43 AM

Ok, I see it's time for me to go to sleep. I'll try reading this again in the morning when I'm actually awake and I'll see if it makes sense to me then.

Then you can even argue with yourself.

CountValentine · « **Reply #4014 on:** October 11, 2019, 09:02:24 AM »

Quote from: whYME on October 11, 2019, 01:37:51 AM

Since when does he argue only the side he actually believes?

Link? If @TimT struck out I don't think you will be do any better.

gingyguy · « **Reply #4015 on:** October 11, 2019, 09:25:52 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 11, 2019, 09:02:24 AM

Link? If @TimT struck out I don't think you will be do any better.

Are you referring to this ?

CountValentine · « **Reply #4016 on:** October 11, 2019, 10:15:38 AM »

Quote from: gingyguy on October 11, 2019, 09:25:52 AM

Are you referring to this ?

What part don't I believe?

ExGingi · « **Reply #4017 on:** October 11, 2019, 05:35:30 PM »

My nephew, visiting from EY, was looking through the shaimos in my house. I told him he could take everything, so he said he'd gladly take it along with him back to EY, where they don't pay for shaimos. It then hit me that I can make good use of two free pcs of luggage next time I go to EY in J.

EliJelly · « **Reply #4018 on:** October 11, 2019, 05:37:21 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on October 11, 2019, 05:35:30 PM

My nephew, visiting from EY, was looking through the shaimos in my house. I told him he could take everything, so he said he'd gladly take it along with him back to EY, where they don't pay for shaimos. It then hit me that I can make good use of two free pcs of luggage next time I go to EY in J.

Not paying for Shaimos?? make sure it has a reliable hechsher then.

Shauly101 · « **Reply #4019 on:** October 12, 2019, 08:08:05 PM »

Quote from: EliJelly on October 11, 2019, 05:37:21 PM

Not paying for Shaimos?? make sure it has a reliable hechsher then.

They have it for free there. (Big blue canisters.)