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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5520 on: July 22, 2021, 03:10:43 PM »
What is a good English name for chana other than Hanna?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5521 on: July 22, 2021, 03:17:39 PM »
What is a good English name for chana other than Hanna?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5522 on: July 22, 2021, 03:26:05 PM »
Connie
Ohhhhhh! I was wondering why this very frum Lakewood lady called herself Connie at work (I don't know what her Jewish name is).

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5523 on: July 22, 2021, 03:26:48 PM »
What is a good English name for chana other than Hanna?
Don't mean to mean obnoxious, or personal for that matter, but, why is this still a thing?
We have people in every level of public office and in every professional industry with the most interesting names from various religions and localities.
Why do we (as Jews) feel that if we put our real names on our legal documents, we'll be discriminated against?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5524 on: July 22, 2021, 03:38:06 PM »
Don't mean to mean obnoxious, or personal for that matter, but, why is this still a thing?
We have people in every level of public office and in every professional industry with the most interesting names from various religions and localities.
Why do we (as Jews) feel that if we put our real names on our legal documents, we'll be discriminated against?
Ch is hard to pronounce properly, if you chop what I’m saying.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5525 on: July 22, 2021, 03:40:09 PM »
Ch is hard to pronounce properly, if you chop what I’m saying.
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That's why I was asking. Not worried about being discrimination

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5526 on: July 22, 2021, 03:43:43 PM »
Why do we (as Jews) feel that if we put our real names on our legal documents, we'll be discriminated against?

Think how much times have changed during your lifetime. Now think how much times changed during that same amount of time (20-40 years) starting in 1920. Just because your name won't cause you problems today, doesn't mean that won't change during your lifetime (or your kid's). I don't personally subscribe to this sentiment, because I don't think names will make much of a difference if we're a target, but I understand those who do.

Ch is hard to pronounce properly, if you chop what I’m saying.

And there's this.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5527 on: July 22, 2021, 04:04:52 PM »
Don't mean to mean obnoxious, or personal for that matter, but, why is this still a thing?
We have people in every level of public office and in every professional industry with the most interesting names from various religions and localities.
Why do we (as Jews) feel that if we put our real names on our legal documents, we'll be discriminated against?
It's traditional.  For centuries (1200-1500?) most men had two or more names, one based on the local language that was used everyday (like Leib) and a Hebrew shem kodesh (like Yehuda) used on religious occasions and documents.  At some point (1500-1600s) it became common to combine these as a single shem kodesh (Yehuda Leib), but we certainly have a long tradition of using separate names for different purposes.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5528 on: July 22, 2021, 04:08:54 PM »
Ch is hard to pronounce properly, if you chop what I’m saying.

How do Lubavitchers pronounce Crown Heights?
Do you guys really say Crown Haytes?

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5529 on: July 22, 2021, 04:12:01 PM »
Ch is hard to pronounce properly...
For who?
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5530 on: July 22, 2021, 04:12:40 PM »
How do Lubavitchers pronounce Crown Heights?
Do you guys really say Crown Haytes?

Wait til you hear how they say ball and air...
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5531 on: July 22, 2021, 04:14:14 PM »
Wait til you hear how they say ball and air...
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5532 on: July 22, 2021, 04:14:27 PM »
Don't mean to mean obnoxious, or personal for that matter, but, why is this still a thing?
We have people in every level of public office and in every professional industry with the most interesting names from various religions and localities.
Why do we (as Jews) feel that if we put our real names on our legal documents, we'll be discriminated against?

Discrimination isn't the only reason. IINM, and there are others on this forum who can correct me if I'm misstating it, there are those who b'shita use secular names at work so as to separate their work life from their home life.

Personally, I use my name at work, except when I'm calling a customer service rep or the like who I will never speak to again. My name isn't tough to pronounce - it's an English word - but it's an unusual name, so I don't want to waste the time it inevitably takes on the back and forth with the rep with them confirming they got it right. If I had a Ch in my name I'd definitely be annoyed using it all the time.

It's traditional.  For centuries (1200-1500?) most men had two or more names, one based on the local language that was used everyday (like Leib) and a Hebrew shem kodesh (like Yehuda) used on religious occasions and documents.  At some point (1500-1600s) it became common to combine these as a single shem kodesh (Yehuda Leib), but we certainly have a long tradition of using separate names for different purposes.

And then came the 2000s, when we went back to using Leib for everyday, and Yehuda for online forums.

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5533 on: July 22, 2021, 04:17:54 PM »

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5534 on: July 22, 2021, 04:18:28 PM »
Ball is bad, but drawer is what kills me.

In CH we don't even sing Dror Yikra

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5535 on: July 22, 2021, 04:24:53 PM »
Ball is bad, but drawer is what kills me.
As long as they don't royd a boyk
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5536 on: July 22, 2021, 04:34:07 PM »
Discrimination isn't the only reason.
Also, when someone gets a driving ticket, or is arrested for fraud, you'd prefer that they do it under a secular name. :-[

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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5537 on: July 22, 2021, 04:39:39 PM »
Also, when someone gets a driving ticket, or is arrested for fraud, you'd prefer that they do it under a secular name. :-[

Yes, but hopefully people aren't giving kids secular names in case they get arrested for something shady down the road.
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5538 on: July 22, 2021, 04:46:26 PM »
Yes, but hopefully people aren't giving kids secular names in case they get arrested for something shady down the road.
Unless its the family business
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Re: Random questions.
« Reply #5539 on: July 22, 2021, 05:12:00 PM »
Also, when someone gets a driving ticket, or is arrested for fraud, you'd prefer that they do it under a secular name. :-[

Yup, definitely better when it's Paul Goldstein or Christopher Cohen.