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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #140 on: April 15, 2015, 08:09:09 AM »
Ok , and an actual competent rav cam disagree, especially on an issue as complicated as eiruv.
Don't get the inverse relationship. The now complicated the easier to disagree?

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #141 on: April 15, 2015, 08:09:45 AM »
Don't get the inverse relationship. The now complicated the easier to disagree?
Easier to interpret differently or come at a different solution
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #142 on: April 15, 2015, 08:10:22 AM »
Then how can you trust your rav?
I trust that he relies on previous poskin and applies their psak to my contemporary question. NOT disagree with them

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #143 on: April 15, 2015, 08:10:56 AM »
Easier to interpret differently or come at a different solution
Hence the danger to disagree

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #144 on: April 15, 2015, 08:13:50 AM »
Hence the danger to disagree
Oy Oy Oy. If that's your thinking then I can't argue.
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #145 on: April 15, 2015, 08:14:29 AM »
Oy Oy Oy. If that's your thinking then I can't argue.
We are clearly on the opposite ends of the spectrum here

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #146 on: April 15, 2015, 08:14:41 AM »
I trust that he relies on previous poskin and applies their psak to my contemporary question. NOT disagree with them
Good luck with that. Cuz no poskim ever argue or disagree.
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #147 on: April 15, 2015, 08:19:06 AM »
Good luck with that. Cuz no poskim ever argue or disagree.
Huh? That has nothing to do with anything im saying

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #148 on: April 15, 2015, 08:23:54 AM »
Then how can you trust your rav?
Every one should trust their own rav and therefore it's the rabbis who tell their kehillah that they may use the eruv who will burn for it and not the kehillah
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #149 on: April 15, 2015, 08:56:14 AM »
Every one should trust their own rav and therefore it's the rabbis who tell their kehillah that they may not use the eruv who will burn for it and not the kehillah
FTFY why is your side of the coin always right?

Anyways that's not my point... my point is that NO rabbi will burn if he learned through the sugya and came out with his psak then he is allowed to pasken like that (even if reb Moshe does not agree).
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #150 on: April 15, 2015, 09:25:23 AM »
IIRC in his tshuva regarding the eruv in Brooklyn R Moshe himself writes that someone who understands the sugya differently is OBLIGATED to pasken based on the way he understands. Either, to take this further off topic, R Moshe's understanding of how to calculate 600,000 is definitely not the way it was understood by the Bais Efraim, Mishkenos Yaakov, R Aharon Kotler and many more. Someone who argues definitely has backers.
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #151 on: April 15, 2015, 12:50:34 PM »
FTFY why is your side of the coin always right?

Anyways that's not my point... my point is that NO rabbi will burn if he learned through the sugya and came out with his psak then he is allowed to pasken like that (even if reb Moshe does not agree).
exactly my point.
IIRC in his tshuva regarding the eruv in Brooklyn R Moshe himself writes that someone who understands the sugya differently is OBLIGATED to pasken based on the way he understands. Either, to take this further off topic, R Moshe's understanding of how to calculate 600,000 is definitely not the way it was understood by the Bais Efraim, Mishkenos Yaakov, R Aharon Kotler and many more. Someone who argues definitely has backers.
+1
I usually find myself disagreeing with what you say somewhat, but I completely agree with you.
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #152 on: April 15, 2015, 03:47:01 PM »
exactly my point.+1
I usually find myself disagreeing with what you say somewhat, but I completely agree with you.
I will continue to write based on my understanding even though you usually disagree:P
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #153 on: April 15, 2015, 03:48:39 PM »
I will continue to write based on my understanding, limited and criminally lacking it may be, even though despite the fact that you usually rightfully disagree:P
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #154 on: April 15, 2015, 03:54:47 PM »
FTFY
let's just say this is one of the ones about which we disagree
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #155 on: April 15, 2015, 07:31:34 PM »
FTFY why is your side of the coin always right?

Anyways that's not my point... my point is that NO rabbi will burn if he learned through the sugya and came out with his psak then he is allowed to pasken like that (even if reb Moshe does not agree).
You make it sound like I always come out screaming that everyone is wrong, there are many other times where i disagree and don't comment because you follow your rabbi and i will follow mine, however there are some cases where it's more than that like when R' Moshe says they are wrong.
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #156 on: April 15, 2015, 08:11:06 PM »
however there are some cases where it's more than that like when R' Moshe says they are wrong.

What if Rav Moshe was wrong?

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #157 on: April 15, 2015, 08:13:21 PM »
What if Rav Moshe was wrong?
I don't have the heart to respond to that
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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #158 on: April 15, 2015, 08:48:38 PM »
I don't have the heart to respond to that
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If it can seriously ask such a question, you will never accept / understand an answer.

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Re: Kosher Switch
« Reply #159 on: April 15, 2015, 09:23:01 PM »
What if Rav Moshe was wrong?
That has nothing to do with YOU! Hashem gave us the torah to learn and he gave the rabbi the power to say a law after understanding it.
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