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On May 14th a commenter mentioned the method on DDMS and Dan simply replied by saying that everyone knows about that
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/65981/comment-page-1#comment-1229252
The secret lives on


UPS pilgrimage to Louisville, KY

If you are in, please put your name and the dates that work for you.
1 - A3 Aug 16. (Coincide with Kansas City Kosher BBQ Fest)
2- EJB - I'll go alone. Don't want to attract more attention to the process
3 - Dr Moose - I already have my contacts in the executive offices, I'll contact them to arrange something.
4 - BaconPancakes - I'm going with Finn as soon as he gets back from Ooo.

From CM: When this first started I thought this was a big joke because if it did exist I would surely have known about it. It seems I have a lot to learn. I have not figured it out but some elite members are protesting to much. I would keep PMing them until they finally give it up. I will work the back channels to see if I can find anything out. I will post publicly if I find anything out so no need to PM me. If you do PM me I will put you on ignore. Together we will get to the bottom of this!

Those you should PM for this method: In this order.
1 - BaconPancakes
2 - Dr Moose
3 - AnonymousUser
4 - A3
5 - yitrap
6 - EJB
7 - Freddie

From EJB: I heard from the grapevine that Dr Moose has been MSing through UPS for years. He apparently has even answered PMs explaining his methods. So I would PM him, even if he threatens to ignore you. He's the one that told me about this method.

From BaconPancakes: I've MSd nearly $2 million since I started this. My friend Finn and I met someone named "Marceline" on the inside and she was able to help us get this method going. It took some effort initially, but we managed to get her boss, whom she called the "Ice King," fired and thankfully he was replaced with someone named Hynden Walch who really jumped on board and helped us optimize this. It turns out the UPS method is mutually beneficial for UPS and for Finn and myself so that's good. PM me for details.

background and history
The ups method was a carefully guarded secret which was still alive and well and used by יחידי סגולה.  Sadly this came to an end when in the amex business plat thread ephraimh accidentally spilled the beans and mentioned our secret.  Since then n00bs have been clamoring to understand how it works and how to take advantage of it.  Certain members like dr. Moose who is clearly in the know are being tight lipped and not sharing the secret.  It appears that other members have been sharing false info in an effort to keep this going and not killed by the n00bs. This may yet replace the mint as one of the best ms methods ever.
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #620 on: May 04, 2017, 11:15:21 AM »
aright, so tell me what it is I'm curious.
BTW as an aside, is it ever worth selling something on ebay or amazon to yourself to get the points, or do the fees take up too much money?
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #621 on: May 04, 2017, 11:16:13 AM »
but that's the gist of it, isn't it? By how much am i off? (if you don't want to say it explicitly pm me)
How do you get to net zero?  ;)
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« Reply #622 on: May 04, 2017, 11:24:02 AM »
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #623 on: May 04, 2017, 11:27:07 AM »
huh?
Zero-sum gain, does that help?
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #624 on: May 04, 2017, 11:38:50 AM »
basically, you have a method that charges zero fees (to achive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_game )
That means you have A: some way of returning objects without getting ur points removed. B) some way of not paying processing fees, instead using UPS to defer it.
I imagine its also easier to get away with if two guys are working in tandem, instead of one guy.
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« Reply #625 on: May 04, 2017, 11:46:02 AM »
basically, you have a method that charges zero fees (to achive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_game )
That means you have A: some way of returning objects without getting ur points removed. B) some way of not paying processing fees, instead using UPS to defer it.
I imagine its also easier to get away with if two guys are working in tandem, instead of one guy.
Fees can be very much worth it depending on the end game. I'd pay $10-$15 to swipe $10k on a 5x card. Lots of assumptions here.
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #626 on: May 04, 2017, 11:54:11 AM »
So youre saying there are fees? so why not just open a credit processing account or register yourself as a merchant, buy from yourself (or use a neighbor) problem solved unlimited points?
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« Reply #627 on: May 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM »
So youre saying there are fees? so why not just open a credit processing account or register yourself as a merchant, buy from yourself (or use a neighbor) problem solved unlimited points?
I'm not saying anything, you are. Just giving you some food for thought. Regardless, this is not the UPS method
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« Reply #628 on: May 04, 2017, 11:58:57 AM »
ok, I'm just curious. I have no intention of actually using it. can u PM it to me?
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« Reply #629 on: May 04, 2017, 12:05:37 PM »
ok, I'm just curious. I have no intention of actually using it. can u PM it to me?
Read the wiki, there is an order of who to PM. I'm (thankfully) not on that list.
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« Reply #630 on: May 04, 2017, 12:23:50 PM »
Read the wiki, there is an order of who to PM. I'm (thankfully) not on that list.
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« Reply #631 on: May 04, 2017, 12:25:54 PM »
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« Reply #632 on: May 04, 2017, 12:27:49 PM »
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #633 on: May 04, 2017, 12:28:49 PM »
Not mine
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« Reply #634 on: May 04, 2017, 12:29:22 PM »
Don't see you on the list, I can add you if you'd like :P
Go ahead, much good it'll do all the people who pm me.
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« Reply #635 on: May 04, 2017, 01:02:23 PM »
So youre saying there are fees? so why not just open a credit processing account or register yourself as a merchant, buy from yourself (or use a neighbor) problem solved unlimited points?
Because you'll be shut down before you know it, and you'll be banned from all CC Processing companies and banks. Nobody will open an account for you with either your SSN or TID
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« Reply #636 on: May 04, 2017, 01:03:12 PM »
Because you'll be shut down before you know it, and you'll be banned from all CC Processing companies and banks. Nobody will open an account for you with either your SSN or TID

It also is not a sum 0 game that way

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« Reply #637 on: May 04, 2017, 01:08:18 PM »
It also is not a sum 0 game that way
I was just responding to the second half, I don't care for the other parts :)
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« Reply #638 on: May 04, 2017, 05:38:16 PM »
Because you'll be shut down before you know it, and you'll be banned from all CC Processing companies and banks. Nobody will open an account for you with either your SSN or TID
not if you do it through amazon.....
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* UPS Thread
« Reply #639 on: May 04, 2017, 05:42:43 PM »
not if you do it through amazon.....
Not true.
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