Author Topic: Riots! (Read 26054 times)

clear thinker · « **Reply #120 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:47:14 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 30, 2015, 04:18:48 PM

I know blacks are being targeted but I never knew by how much until now.

Are u trying to say that they are actually charged and convicted also racially??

Menachem613 · « **Reply #121 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:49:52 PM »

Quote from: zale on April 30, 2015, 08:06:32 PM

Of course Whites can be violent. Not only can they be violent, but the ones that are violent commit far more sophisticated crimes, like Timothy Mcveigh who built a military-grade bomb on a truck.

The question is about PERCENTAGES. A black kid who has done nothing wrong might get stopped and frisked because 85% of the people that he comes into contact with may have committed a violent crime. His neighbors, his friends and his family might have all done time in prison for a crime. A cop might stop him because there is an 85% chance that he might be up to no good.

As I have said before, this is not the fault of the cops. The cops (at least most of them) are simply trying to do their job. Either they stop the kids that look reasonably suspicious, or they stop nobody at all. There is nothing in between. If given the choice, I wonder if Black communities would vote for the former or the latter...

Innocent Blacks have to suffer because of other Blacks that commit crimes. They are not suffering because of White cops.

The reason why they are suffering in Baltimore is because the police are not following the law. They have yet to explain the probable cause for the arrest. If you were the spokesperson you would've said "waddya mean why was he arrested, he's black and he looked suspicious, you know,"

clear thinker · « **Reply #122 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:57:57 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on April 30, 2015, 08:49:52 PM

The reason why they are suffering in Baltimore is because the police are not following the law. They have yet to explain the probable cause for the arrest. If you were the spokesperson you would've said "waddya mean why was he arrested, he's black and he looked suspicious, you know,"

There is a process! Give it due time!
This is a nation of laws! (Not Sharpton laws)
By Michael Brown and Eric Garner they thought the same, yet......
Give time for the system to work and then (even) if it fails there is a democratic way of protesting!

avromie7 · « **Reply #123 on:** April 30, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »

Quote from: Aaaron on April 30, 2015, 08:11:26 PM

That's a load pf crock. There's a reason we have laws to dictate this kind of thing. There is something in between. Cops CANNOT stop a kid for being on a street corner. Even if he "looks suspicious," whatever the heck that means. He needs reasonable articulable suspicion to even stop the kid. They rarely have that. The fact that his neighbors, friends, family, etc. may have a criminal history is completely irrelevant.

You may be correct in principle but if we keep trying to be politically correct there will soon be no law or order in the world which is the reason why israel does profile people

Menachem613 · « **Reply #124 on:** April 30, 2015, 09:07:42 PM »

Quote from: clear thinker on April 30, 2015, 08:57:57 PM

There is a process! Give it due time!
This is a nation of laws! (Not Sharpton laws)
By Michael Brown and Eric Garner they thought the same, yet......
Give time for the system to work and then (even) if it fails there is a democratic way of protesting!

Nation of laws seems to apply to citizens but not law enforcement in Baltimore. It doesn't take this long to identify the reasonable suspicion for the stop and the probably cause for the arrest. We all know the truth and the police are hoping to delay it as long as possible.

cf · « **Reply #125 on:** April 30, 2015, 09:30:12 PM »

I sometimes feel treated and judged in a wrong way only because I'm Jewish. Is it fare? No. We are judged because a big percent of the Jewish people behave or do these type of things.
We as Jews or they as blacks need to stop behaving in that way.
And everyone else needs to stop judging people due to their race.

sky121 · « **Reply #126 on:** April 30, 2015, 09:44:35 PM »

It actually makes a lot more sense to judge someone who belongs to a part of a community or group than to judge someone by the color of their skin.

Meanwhile there are people that are true racists and hate people because of the color of their skin and there are people who just 'hate' those who are trouble and in many communities they happen to be black.

Most of the black people I see in my community I'd be quick to judge.
On the other hand I've been other places in the world where the colored folk are nice, polite educated law abiding citizens.

I have a few black folk in my neighborhood that are the nicest people you'll ever meet.

The same way I've met nice Arabs and Muslims. But enough people start doing something and I'd be a fool not to be extra cautious and suspicious.

clear thinker · « **Reply #127 on:** April 30, 2015, 10:10:56 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on April 30, 2015, 09:07:42 PM

Nation of laws seems to apply to citizens but not law enforcement in Baltimore. It doesn't take this long to identify the reasonable suspicion for the stop and the probably cause for the arrest. We all know the truth and the police are hoping to delay it as long as possible.

So it seemed in Ferguson and Staten Island, until.....

zale · « **Reply #128 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:34:20 PM »

I believe that this video explains beautifully why the violence in Baltimore is completely justified. Take note Menachem613, ChaimMoskowitz and Aaaron.

http://bit.ly/1KyPTrX

Start at the 1:45 mark.

Freddie · « **Reply #129 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:45:53 PM »

Quote from: zale on April 30, 2015, 11:34:20 PM

I believe that this video explains beautifully why the violence in Baltimore is completely justified. Take note Menachem613, ChaimMoskowitz and Aaaron.

http://bit.ly/1KyPTrX

Start at the 1:45 mark.

Stupid question but what makes it impossible for someone to open a checking account at a normal bank? What am I missing?

Aaaron · « **Reply #130 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:51:17 PM »

Quote from: zale on April 30, 2015, 11:34:20 PM

I believe that this video explains beautifully why the violence in Baltimore is completely justified. Take note Menachem613, ChaimMoskowitz and Aaaron.

http://bit.ly/1KyPTrX

Start at the 1:45 mark.

I actually don't believe that those stores were specifically targeted. Nor do I believe any of it was justified. Opportunistic anarchy.

yitrap · « **Reply #131 on:** May 01, 2015, 12:34:37 AM »

Quote from: Freddie on April 30, 2015, 11:45:53 PM

Stupid question but what makes it impossible for someone to open a checking account at a normal bank? What am I missing?

Maybe being in the red in other banks they opened?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #132 on:** May 01, 2015, 12:57:09 AM »

Quote from: clear thinker on April 30, 2015, 08:47:14 PM

Are u trying to say that they are actually charged and convicted also racially??

What I am saying is we can play all sort of games with statistics.

The point is blacks are now and always have been targeted. If you want to argue that they should be based on statistics you have a valid argument. If you want to argue they are not being targeted then I will gladly add you to my program (DACOTYA).

JoeCha · « **Reply #133 on:** May 01, 2015, 03:12:17 AM »

I think everyone should have their regularly watched news channel next to his DDF user name & avatar.

It'll make it much easier to understand each other.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #134 on:** May 01, 2015, 03:30:37 AM »

Quote from: JoeCha on May 01, 2015, 03:12:17 AM

I think everyone should have their regularly watched news channel next to his DDF user name & avatar.

It'll make it much easier to understand each other.

Sports channel.

whYME · « **Reply #135 on:** May 01, 2015, 03:43:37 AM »

Quote from: zale on April 30, 2015, 11:34:20 PM

http://bit.ly/1KyPTrX

lol @2:13 he want's people to come down and have a "destructive dialog in order to address the problems."

lunatic · « **Reply #136 on:** May 01, 2015, 04:54:23 AM »

Quote from: zale on April 30, 2015, 11:34:20 PM

I believe that this video explains beautifully why the violence in Baltimore is completely justified. Take note Menachem613, ChaimMoskowitz and Aaaron.

http://bit.ly/1KyPTrX

Start at the 1:45 mark.

I didn't watch it, because I am not going to accept that this level of violence and rampant destruction can be justified.

Emkay · « **Reply #137 on:** May 01, 2015, 05:54:16 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 30, 2015, 03:54:10 PM

Not sure what those white kids were thinking.

https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+riot+after+championship&biw=1600&bih=794&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=74dCVaePMoXooASsu4HoBQ&ved=0CB0QsAQ

canadians....

Achas Veachas · « **Reply #138 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:51:50 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on May 01, 2015, 05:54:16 AM

canadians....

Can't get any whiter than that...

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #139 on:** May 01, 2015, 07:06:55 AM »

Quote from: Achas Veachas on May 01, 2015, 06:51:50 AM

Can't get any whiter than that...

Skinheads?