Riots!

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What color are the six officers?

[Aaaron]

What color are the six officers?

Apparently the one charged with 2nd degree is black.  All rumors at this point.

[sguitarist18]

What amuses/frightens me about these riots, is that you have the black community saying that they're demonstrating, because it's wrong that police pick on them, and that people say they have a stereotype of being violent.

So the way they're proving that the stereotype is wrong, is by...?

And on a more practical level, if I lived in baltimore, any kid growing up there that experiences, or sees any of this...what is their opinion of blacks going to be?

And that's not going to be based on the actions of an isolated individual, but rather on the actions of a whole community.

To me, that's frightening.

[lunatic]

My kids were/are certainly frightened

[Menachem613]

What amuses/frightens me about these riots, is that you have the black community saying that they're demonstrating, because it's wrong that police pick on them, and that people say they have a stereotype of being violent.

So the way they're proving that the stereotype is wrong, is by...?

And on a more practical level, if I lived in baltimore, any kid growing up there that experiences, or sees any of this...what is their opinion of blacks going to be?

And that's not going to be based on the actions of an isolated individual, but rather on the actions of a whole community.

To me, that's frightening.

You have it wrong. They are demonstrating because the police are not following the law they have sworn to uphold.

[sguitarist18]

You have it wrong. They are demonstrating because the police are not following the law they have sworn to uphold.

Ah...so you're saying this had nothing to do with the fact that they were being judged unfairly, it's a matter of principle. They would be just as incensed if the police had been profiling other racial or ethnic groups. Heck, they would have been just as angry if policemen had been speeding, because after all, that's breaking the law they've sworn to uphold!

Seriously?

[Menachem613]

Ah...so you're saying this had nothing to do with the fact that they were being judged unfairly, it's a matter of principle. They would be just as incensed if the police had been profiling other racial or ethnic groups. Heck, they would have been just as angry if policemen had been speeding, because after all, that's breaking the law they've sworn to uphold!

Seriously?

The breaking of law caused his spine to be broken.  That's reason enough to be upset in my book.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What amuses/frightens me about these riots, is that you have the black community saying that they're demonstrating, because it's wrong that police pick on them, and that people say they have a stereotype of being violent.

So the way they're proving that the stereotype is wrong, is by...?

They are not protesting because people say "they have a stereotype of being violent". The way you asked the question is very interesting. It is like asking someone how many times you beat your wife each week.

[Jkhein]

My kids were/are certainly frightened

well maybe the community should do more to keep their kids home....
white guy on left is wearing a yarmulke....

[sguitarist18]

The breaking of law caused his spine to be broken.  That's reason enough to be upset in my book.

I agree it's reason to be upset. But I think you'll agree that it's not why they're...ah..."demonstrating."

They are not protesting because people say "they have a stereotype of being violent". The way you asked the question is very interesting. It is like asking someone how many times you beat your wife each week.

It's not a question of what people say. If you feel that there's a different reason for them rioting, please clarify. In my opinion, the riots, the anger are because they see themselves unfairly targeted. Right? They feel that it's wrong for police to assume that the average black person is a criminal, or violent, or dangerous. The police should treat them the same way they treat all other races.

The underlying idea behind the justice of this is that essentially, the black community is NOT a violent, dangerous, criminal group.

Do you disagree?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I agree it's reason to be upset. But I think you'll agree that it's not why they're...ah..."demonstrating."

It's not a question of what people say. If you feel that there's a different reason for them rioting, please clarify. In my opinion, the riots, the anger are because they see themselves unfairly targeted. Right? They feel that it's wrong for police to assume that the average black person is a criminal, or violent, or dangerous. The police should treat them the same way they treat all other races.

The underlying idea behind the justice of this is that essentially, the black community is NOT a violent, dangerous, criminal group.

Do you disagree?

Again you are trying to word it as "how many times you beat your wife". They are protesting because they are being targeted because they are black, PERIOD! When they see a black person being shot multiple times in the back when running away what should they think.

If you want to make the argument that they should be targeted because you feel they are animals that is a different issue.

[sguitarist18]

Again you are trying to word it as "how many times you beat your wife". They are protesting because they are being targeted because they are black, PERIOD! When they see a black person being shot multiple times in the back when running away what should they think.

If you want to make the argument that they should be targeted because you feel they are animals that is a different issue.

When has that happened (I mean, really happened, not what was claimed happened)?

No, I'm not trying to word anything - being "targeted" can mean all kinds of things - for exampe, lots of people here are happy if they get targeted for a credit card offer.

They're angry because they feel they are being treated differently, in a negative way. Now, even if it's unfair, there are 2 options for why it would happen - 1)  police like hurting/killing black people, or 2) black people are seen as more of a threat, so the police respond differently.

In the eyes of the black community, which do you think is accurate?

[Aaaron]

When has that happened (I mean, really happened, not what was claimed happened)?

No, I'm not trying to word anything - being "targeted" can mean all kinds of things - for exampe, lots of people here are happy if they get targeted for a credit card offer.

They're angry because they feel they are being treated differently, in a negative way. Now, even if it's unfair, there are 2 options for why it would happen - 1)  police like hurting/killing black people, or 2) black people are seen as more of a threat, so the police respond differently.

In the eyes of the black community, which do you think is accurate?

Short memory?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/08/cop-who-shot-black-man-in-back-fired/

[ChaimMoskowitz]

When has that happened (I mean, really happened, not what was claimed happened)?

You want to try and defend this one?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

No, I'm not trying to word anything - being "targeted" can mean all kinds of things - for exampe, lots of people here are happy if they get targeted for a credit card offer.

They're angry because they feel they are being treated differently, in a negative way. Now, even if it's unfair, there are 2 options for why it would happen - 1)  police like hurting/killing black people, or 2) black people are seen as more of a threat, so the police respond differently.

In the eyes of the black community, which do you think is accurate?

Blacks are being stopped, harassed or arrested based on their color. This is illegal. This is what they are protesting about. How much clearer can I make my point. You might not agree with me but stop trying to confuse the issue I am talking about.

[zale]

Blacks are being stopped, harassed or arrested based on their color. This is illegal. This is what they are protesting about. How much clearer can I make my point. You might not agree with me but stop trying to confuse the issue I am talking about.

How would you "fix" this alleged problem if you were the Mayor or Commissioner?

[Achas Veachas]

How would you "fix" this alleged problem if you were the Mayor or Commissioner?

If it was such a simple problem to "fix" we wouldn't have all this rioting...

[clear thinker]

I'm not going to take sides in this conversation, but in answer to your question;

source

This is where I saw the study, I've never looked at the original.

Tnx a million I looked for this report yesterday over an hour!
I heard of it and just couldn't find it.
Tnx!

[clear thinker]

Are they crazy??!
Seriously 2nd degree??

[efflpetzel]

Are they crazy??!
Seriously 2nd degree??

don't worry they'll be acquitted