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Re: The wells report
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2015, 06:20:41 PM »
Brady suspended 4 games  ;D

Pats lose 1st round pick in 2016, 4th round pick in 2017, and fined $1 Mil.
I am impressed with the NFL. Does Brady appeal the suspension?
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2015, 06:30:43 PM »
I am impressed with the NFL. Does Brady appeal the suspension?
Of course he will. Probably end up with 2 games.
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2015, 06:40:26 PM »
he will appeal
there is no direct evidence against him

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2015, 07:06:00 PM »
Should've donev at least 6 so he ends up with 4 after appeal

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2015, 07:06:49 PM »
he will appeal
there is no direct evidence against him
He didn't get suspended just for deflating the balls items also for failure to cooperate with the investigation

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2015, 07:28:20 PM »
I am impressed with the NFL. Does Brady appeal the suspension?

Tom Brady's agent Don Yee says they will appeal the 4-game suspension. Calls the discipline "ridiculous"

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2015, 08:01:11 PM »
Can't wait for one of the two attendees to do a tell all

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2015, 08:26:23 PM »
Can't wait for one of the two attendees to do a tell all
im sure they have been payed off to keep quiet

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2015, 08:28:19 PM »
Tom Brady's agent Don Yee says they will appeal the 4-game suspension. Calls the discipline "ridiculous"
It is. Have you ever heard someone convicted for something on the final judgment of "more probable than not" ???
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2015, 08:28:41 PM »
im sure they have been payed off to keep quiet
if it actually happened, then forsure
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2015, 08:29:04 PM »
All they have are emails from the guys that did it.
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2015, 08:30:10 PM »
Why is this cheating OK but what Pete Rose or Shoeless Joe did a capital offense?
betting seems to be in different league than all other offenses
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2015, 08:33:28 PM »
Wiki added

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2015, 08:39:54 PM »
It is. Have you ever heard someone convicted for something on the final judgment of "more probable than not" ???
Pats fan? More probable than not is a legal definition that is enough fit civil courts and the nfl. You honestly believe they would mess with his footballs with out his permission?? I just can't buy any intellectually honest person believing that

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2015, 08:42:43 PM »
Wiki added
How do you "+1" a wiki?

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2015, 08:50:19 PM »
Pats fan? More probable than not is a legal definition that is enough fit civil courts and the nfl. You honestly believe they would mess with his footballs with out his permission?? I just can't buy any intellectually honest person believing that
True http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/more-probable-than-not-carries-important-legal-meaning/
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Re: The wells report
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2015, 09:08:21 PM »
My favorite Brady Family video:

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2015, 09:22:43 PM »
My favorite Brady Family video:


U have more than 1?

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Re: The wells report
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2015, 10:01:05 PM »
True http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/more-probable-than-not-carries-important-legal-meaning/

Yes, "more likely than not" is the standard in civil cases. More than 50% probability.

Of course it is. How could any other standard make sense?  If reuven says shimon owes him money, and it is more likely than not that shimon does, then between the two, obviously the money should go to reuven.  Because one of them needs to have the money, so it should go to the one it more probably belongs to.  Even though we'll be wrong 49% of the time (in cases that are 51-49% likelihood), that is better than being wrong 51% of the time.  A false positive is equally bad to a false negative, because somebody is out money wrongfully in either case.

But we would never punish someone in court based on more than 50% probability.  Why not--he probably did it?  Because we don't want to be incorrectly punishing people in 49% of the criminal cases that are 51-49% likelihood.  When we are punishing people, we value false positives more strongly than false negatives.

So, in football cheating scandals, where we smear someone's reputation--are you ok with a false positive rate of 49%?  Because if you are not, then you should be signing on to my wiki.