Author Topic: Lakewood Shabbos rally (Read 152548 times)

avromie7 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:46:48 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:45:51 PM

It will be a turf war for a couple weeks till they get bored of it and find a new place to chill. Hopefully more private.

Not happening.
If you know of one maybe kindly suggest it to them but this won't do it

rileywiles23 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:48:40 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:45:51 PM

It will be a turf war for a couple weeks till they get bored of it and find a new place to chill. Hopefully more private.

This is where your missing the point. The only way to help such boys, and girls is through acceptance, and love. Making turf wars is counter productive.

tjak · « **Reply #22 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:49:26 PM »

Quote from: avromie7 on May 17, 2015, 06:46:48 PM

Not happening if you know of one maybe kindly suggest it to them but this won't do it

I wouldn't want to chill there if people came and made a kumzits every week, and I highly doubt they do. It's only fun smoking in their faces the first couple times.

avromie7 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:49:33 PM »

Quote from: rileywiles23 on May 17, 2015, 06:48:40 PM

This is where your missing the point. The only way to help such boys, and girls is through acceptance, and love. Making turf wars is counter productive.

+1000000

sky121 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:50:02 PM »

Quote from: rileywiles23 on May 17, 2015, 06:48:40 PM

This is where your missing the point. The only way to help such boys, and girls is through acceptance, and love. Making turf wars is counter productive.

. Doesn't sound like their goal is to help them as much as it is to hide them. Either way this isn't the way to go about it.

tjak · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:50:10 PM »

Quote from: rileywiles23 on May 17, 2015, 06:48:40 PM

This is where your missing the point. The only way to help such boys, and girls is through acceptance, and love. Making turf wars is counter productive.

That's where you miss the point, they're not trying to help.

avromie7 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:51:21 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:50:10 PM

That's where you miss the point, they're not trying to help.

That's a huge problem as community leader its his responsibility to help not make it worse

rileywiles23 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:51:31 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:49:26 PM

I wouldn't want to chill there if people came and made a kumzits every week, and I highly doubt they do. It's only fun smoking in their faces the first couple times.

So let's make a kumtzitz in front of them, creating more hate and disgust for the frum community

avromie7 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:52:54 PM »

If CBC was still around this would get so much more exciting

tjak · « **Reply #29 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:53:54 PM »

Quote from: avromie7 on May 17, 2015, 06:51:21 PM

That's a huge problem as community leader its his responsibility to help not make it worse

Quote from: rileywiles23 on May 17, 2015, 06:51:31 PM

So let's make a kumtzitz in front of them, creating more hate and disgust for the frum community

Those are good points, I'm just saying what they're trying to achieve by doing this.

rileywiles23 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:54:14 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:50:10 PM

That's where you miss the point, they're not trying to help.

Quote from: avromie7 on May 17, 2015, 06:51:21 PM

That's a huge problem as community leader its his responsibility to help not make it worse

That's exactly my point. Our goal should be, trying to help these kids. Not to create strife, and conflict. Plus all its doing is creating a massive chilul hashem.

tjak · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2015, 06:59:14 PM »

Quote from: rileywiles23 on May 17, 2015, 06:54:14 PM

That's exactly my point. Our goal should be, trying to help these kids. Not to create strife, and conflict. Plus all its doing is creating a massive chilul hashem.

There are plenty of people trying to help them and look we still have the problem. So now the others that are bothered by the problem have to find a new way to deal with it, cause helping them obviously won't do it.

avromie7 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:01:53 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 06:59:14 PM

There are plenty of people trying to help them and look we still have the problem. So now the others that are bothered by the problem have to find a new way to deal with it, cause helping them obviously won't do it.

When 99% are being counterproductive its very hard for the 1% who are trying to help

tjak · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:04:43 PM »

Quote from: avromie7 on May 17, 2015, 07:01:53 PM

When 99% are being counterproductive its very hard for the 1% who are trying to help

The 99% only came last week and the 1% couldn't do anything before that.

avromie7 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:09:13 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 07:04:43 PM

The 99% only came last week and the 1% couldn't do anything before that.

Give me a break if all you guys would do is be nice to them, nothing special just don't them feel like crap because they wear jeans it would be a very different situation but no one besides for a select few seem to care about them.

BTW why didn't anyone protest when the reform and conservative were in the middle of Lakewood? Just because you want a property is not a reason to tolerate chilul shabbos?

asd · « **Reply #35 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:09:38 PM »

When there is a epidemic you have to isolate the patient even if its not his fault. I think they view kids going off the derech now as an epidemic and and therefore they must be isolated so that other kids shouldn't be chapped by them.

avromie7 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:10:56 PM »

Quote from: asd on May 17, 2015, 07:09:38 PM

When there is a epidemic you have to isolate the patient even if its not his fault. I think they view kids going off the derech now as an epidemic and and therefore they must be isolated so that other kids shouldn't be chapped by them.

Would you say thay if it were your kid?

Freddie · « **Reply #37 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:11:23 PM »

Quote from: asd on May 17, 2015, 07:09:38 PM

When there is a epidemic you have to isolate the patient even if its not his fault. I think they view kids going off the derech now as an epidemic and and therefore they must be isolated so that other kids shouldn't be chapped by them.

If that's your train of logic, then let the frum people isolate themselves.

asd · « **Reply #38 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:11:36 PM »

whats true is true

sams · « **Reply #39 on:** May 17, 2015, 07:12:04 PM »

Quote from: tjak on May 17, 2015, 07:04:43 PM

The 99% only came last week and the 1% couldn't do anything before that.

+1 help is been around for years.knowplan B is to get them to hang else where.

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