Lakewood Shabbos rally

[jj1000]

@Aj3042 I am totally not following this thread, but you are saying people are willing to break halacha when all they are saying is you shouldn't protest. You are adding things to other peoples logic that doesn't exist.

It's like me saying Aj thinks protesting is good so he also thinks that punching them is good, but punching is against halacha, so Aj is wrong and no one can explain why he's not.

Maybe because no one holds that, and that's why no one is answering your questions, you made them up.

[PTU]

If they're getting into drugs, it could also mean they physical lives R"L.

Now you mentioned the elephant in the room, the rampant heroin epidemic in Lakewood.

We must do everything in our power to keep kids who are on the fringe away from the diseased groups.
This is truly pikuach nefesh!

[yakrot]

If they're getting into drugs, it could also mean they physical lives R"L.

In my experience rov of teens off the derech in lkwd are doing drugs.

[yitrap]

In my experience rov of teens off the derech in lkwd are doing drugs.

Kid in the second video at the beginning is ridiculously high.

[Ergel]

@Aj3042 I am totally not following this thread, but you are saying people are willing to break halacha when all they are saying is you shouldn't protest. You are adding things to other peoples logic that doesn't exist.

It's like me saying Aj thinks protesting is good so he also thinks that punching them is good, but punching is against halacha, so Aj is wrong and no one can explain why he's not.

Maybe because no one holds that, and that's why no one is answering your questions, you made them up.

It's called a straw man argument. We've already established he does not know what that means

[yakrot]

Kid in the second video at the beginning is ridiculously high.

Ever been anywhere in lkwd the "in look"  is jeans and and an incredibly high facial expression

[yitrap]

Ever been anywhere in lkwd the "in look"  is jeans and and an incredibly high facial expression

Are you saying he's faking it or are you saying all kids in lakewood are high?

[Dan]

Now you mentioned the elephant in the room, the rampant heroin epidemic in Lakewood.

We must do everything in our power to keep kids who are on the fringe away from the diseased groups.
This is truly pikuach nefesh!

So that's why you bring your kids down to see them in their element, smoking, using their cell phones, and cursing on shabbos? 

[yakrot]

Are you saying he's faking it or are you saying all kids in lakewood are high?

I'm saying a large amount of the at risk kids in Lakewood are truly in a different state of mind.

[yitrap]

So that's why you bring your kids down to see them in their element, smoking, using their cell phones, and cursing on shabbos?

No no no it was for kovod shabbos we need to show them we wont stand for it

[yitrap]

I'm saying a large amount of the at risk kids in Lakewood are truly in a different state of mind.

Oh definitely i'm just pointing out one of them

[Aj3042]

do any of you actually believe that it is pikuach nefesh in the sense that it is doche kol hatorah?

Believe or not they seem to be saying that.
Dan I found a flight for you from CLE on shabbos so you can fly in for the shabbos DO. Remember, it's pikuach nefesh.

[PTU]

So that's why you bring your kids down to see them in their element, smoking, using their cell phones, and cursing on shabbos?

One should absolutely NOT bring kids to the march.
Those that do are clearly missing screws IMHO.

[Dan]

No no no it was for kovod shabbos we need to show them we wont stand for it

Doesn't look like it worked.  Maybe bring stones next time so they get the message?

[Dan]

One should absolutely NOT bring kids to the march.
Those that do are clearly missing screws IMHO.

The crowd was full of kids and teens.  Good thing this rally will keep them sheltered.

[yitrap]

Doesn't look like it worked.  Maybe bring stones next time so they get the message?

We don't even need to set them aside before shabbos since aj is now deadset on everyone being mechalel shabbos letoeles

[Sport]

Aha ok so I'll meet you at the mall this shabbos. You drive an OTD teen there I'll drive another.
Anybody else in? Shabbos DO at the mall? Everybody drive and bring an OTD teen-it's for kiruv and it's pikuach nefesh so it's all good. We're just trying to keep them away from bad influneces so the whole Torah is off.Ok so you're in for the DO too. We got 3 so far-anybody else in???

For someone that was adamant about not bringing emotions into a logical argument..

[Dan]

Believe or not they seem to be saying that.
Dan I found a flight for you from CLE on shabbos so you can fly in for the shabbos DO. Remember, it's pikuach nefesh.

I want to go next shabbos to view the anti-frum Vs frum rally.
Should be a real kiddush hashem.

[Aj3042]

@Aj3042 I am totally not following this thread, but you are saying people are willing to break halacha when all they are saying is you shouldn't protest. You are adding things to other peoples logic that doesn't exist.

It's like me saying Aj thinks protesting is good so he also thinks that punching them is good, but punching is against halacha, so Aj is wrong and no one can explain why he's not.

Maybe because no one holds that, and that's why no one is answering your questions, you made them up.

No what I'm saying is that if protesting public chillul shabbos done to flaunt is is a good thing then the fact that it will anger OTD teens is irrelevant.

It's called a straw man argument. We've already established he does not know what that means

This is actually the tin man. Or is the gold man?
Do you know how to talk on the point or is talking about straw your thing?

[PTU]

The crowd was full of kids and teens.

That was a terrible oversite by the organizers. The needed to put on the signs "for adults only". (For those who are just mind numbingly naive enough to bring their teens along)