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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2360 on: December 23, 2020, 10:19:20 PM »
Interesting. However they claim they give royalties.
Indeed. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing. I thought they were saying that it's legal because it's only streaming and not downloading.

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2361 on: December 24, 2020, 09:10:13 AM »
There are some lyrics that have just one tune. In today's music world, with albums coming out so often, those lyrics become fewer and further in between, but they still exist. Many are Yossi Green's, who was often original, though there are others. Wonder how many I could come up with.

A few come to mind right away (though some here may know of tunes I'm unaware of). Here are some:

Aderaba
Tanya
Ki Hamitzva Hazos
Am seridai chorev

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2362 on: December 24, 2020, 09:20:04 AM »
yerakrak :D
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2363 on: December 24, 2020, 10:30:54 AM »
yerakrak :D
Was just gonna say, there are probably quite a few that have only one tune because after the it became clear they were terrible lyrics. Obviously that one's a joke, but I can think of plenty that weren't.

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2364 on: December 24, 2020, 12:23:36 PM »
Was just gonna say, there are probably quite a few that have only one tune because after the it became clear they were terrible lyrics. Obviously that one's a joke, but I can think of plenty that weren't.

There are also many that have one good song and a bunch of wannabes whining other tunes to the same words as the good song.
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2365 on: December 24, 2020, 12:27:23 PM »
Was just gonna say, there are probably quite a few that have only one tune because after the it became clear they were terrible lyrics. Obviously that one's a joke, but I can think of plenty that weren't.

See "Omar lei bar hei hei."

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2366 on: December 24, 2020, 12:37:49 PM »
ben bag bag too
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2368 on: December 24, 2020, 12:59:18 PM »

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2369 on: December 24, 2020, 01:06:04 PM »
There are also many that have one good song and a bunch of wannabes whining other tunes to the same words as the good song.
Or, there are really good songs that just don't make it because there already is a classic with those words.

Case in point (and a great "fun fact"): Avrohom Fried purchased the song "Vezakeini Legadel" from Yossi Green ten years before it was released on his "Keep Climbing" album. He was going to release it when he bought it but then Boruch Levine put out his debut album with the classic "Vezakeini" on it, prompting Fried to hold the song off for ten years. Even after its delayed release, the song never got the thunder it deserves (IMO) because Levine's song still dominates with those lyrics.

(Interesting side point: this also gives insight into the fact that this is the lone Yossi Green song on that album. Fried was not happy with the style of songs Green was offering at the time, so he declined buying a song. But he had a Green song from a decade earlier.)

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2370 on: December 24, 2020, 01:19:03 PM »
Or, there are really good songs that just don't make it because there already is a classic with those words.
Another great song that I think will never get its full deserved attention is Koh Omar/Lechteich from Motty Steinmetz. It should have been an instant classic, but it has the unforgivable virtue of containing the same lyrics of an already untouchable classic.

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2371 on: December 24, 2020, 04:02:32 PM »
Another great song that I think will never get its full deserved attention is Koh Omar/Lechteich from Motty Steinmetz. It should have been an instant classic, but it has the unforgivable virtue of containing the same lyrics of an already untouchable classic.
What are the recent instant classics in your opinion?

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2372 on: December 24, 2020, 05:10:11 PM »
See "Omar lei bar hei hei."
ben bag bag too
No comparison IMO. Ben Bag Bag has a worthy message - its issue is the wordiness that make it clunky lyrically, especially the introduction of בן בג בג אומר. Bar Hei Hei is basically a whole shakla vtarya from the gemara, and even then, the message from the maskana is not really something you'd sing about. The only connection between the 2 is that tosfos in chagiga say they were both named as such because they were geirim.

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2373 on: December 24, 2020, 05:14:05 PM »
No comparison IMO. Ben Bag Bag has a worthy message - its issue is the wordiness that make it clunky lyrically, especially the introduction of בן בג בג אומר. Bar Hei Hei is basically a whole shakla vtarya from the gemara, and even then, the message from the maskana is not really something you'd sing about. The only connection between the 2 is that tosfos in chagiga say they were both named as such because they were geirim.
That's already too much for nittul
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2374 on: December 24, 2020, 05:19:12 PM »
No comparison IMO. Ben Bag Bag has a worthy message - its issue is the wordiness that make it clunky lyrically, especially the introduction of בן בג בג אומר. Bar Hei Hei is basically a whole shakla vtarya from the gemara, and even then, the message from the maskana is not really something you'd sing about. The only connection between the 2 is that tosfos in chagiga say they were both named as such because they were geirim.
true
but it's still a song that has no other tune
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2375 on: December 24, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »
What are the recent instant classics in your opinion?
I'm not going to get into the trap of suggesting any, because people will jump on me and say, "That you call an instant classic?!" but there are some recent ones, and perhaps only time will confirm what they were.

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2376 on: December 24, 2020, 05:33:42 PM »
That's already too much for nittul
You're telling me nittul starts before rabbeinu tam? Stirah minei u'bei. ;D

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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2377 on: December 24, 2020, 07:35:34 PM »
You're telling me nittul starts before rabbeinu tam? Stirah minei u'bei. ;D

If you keep rabbeinu tam then nittel is on January 6th...
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Re: Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2378 on: December 24, 2020, 09:57:29 PM »
Can anyone help me with find the original of this song?



It says it's from Lost in Lazerland, which is where the English version is from. There is a Hebrew version, to the words of Birchas Habayis, which I was introduced to on the Baruch Levine Classics medley on his second album (Chasan HaTorah). The Hebrew version was later rerecorded by Doni Gross on Kumzitz in the Rain 4.

I'm trying to figure out where the original Hebrew recording is from? Is the medley version on Chasan HaTorah its debut, which he adapted in Hebrew to fit his album? Or was it recorded somewhere else first? And if it was recorded elsewhere first, was that the original version, or was the English one on Lost in Lazerland the original?

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Jewish Music (New CDs, hock, and opinions)
« Reply #2379 on: December 24, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »
Can anyone help me with find the original of this song?



It says it's from Lost in Lazerland, which is where the English version is from. There is a Hebrew version, to the words of Birchas Habayis, which I was introduced to on the Baruch Levine Classics medley on his second album (Chasan HaTorah). The Hebrew version was later rerecorded by Doni Gross on Kumzitz in the Rain 4.

I'm trying to figure out where the original Hebrew recording is from? Is the medley version on Chasan HaTorah its debut, which he adapted in Hebrew to fit his album? Or was it recorded somewhere else first? And if it was recorded elsewhere first, was that the original version, or was the English one on Lost in Lazerland the original?
Original is Friendship from Lost in Lazerland. It was subsequently released on Aish 2 as Birchas Habayis.