Author Topic: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.  (Read 185127 times)

Offline av83

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 513
  • Total likes: 30
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1000 on: December 31, 2023, 07:25:15 PM »
Whats type of investment is suggested for money that i will need in about 4 years?

Offline gutlib

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2022
  • Posts: 661
  • Total likes: 307
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1001 on: January 05, 2024, 10:22:22 AM »
Does anyone know about Robinhood are they good, it sounds pretty simple to invest on their platform, but I'm new to this whole thing,
I just want to put away some money for my kids to marry them.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1002 on: January 05, 2024, 10:30:36 AM »
Does anyone know about Robinhood are they good, it sounds pretty simple to invest on their platform, but I'm new to this whole thing,
I just want to put away some money for my kids to marry them.

Any advice is highly appreciated.
If you're just starting, I would recommend mutual funds, e.g., S&P 500 or Total Stock Market index funds. An easy reputable low cost place to do so is Vanguard. Also, 10k per each parent per year can be invested in I-Bonds. Look it up on DDMS. The most important advice is JUST DO IT - the earlier the better. Don't get lost in the details. The main thing is to just do it. Hatzlacha!

Offline sguitarist18

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 1911
  • Total likes: 955
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1003 on: January 05, 2024, 10:36:03 AM »
Does anyone know about Robinhood are they good, it sounds pretty simple to invest on their platform, but I'm new to this whole thing,
I just want to put away some money for my kids to marry them.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Personally, I find Vanguard's website difficult to use.

Fidelity might be the easiest, and any money in your account is automatically put into a money market fund currently yielding ~5%.

As far as investment choices,

If you're just starting, I would recommend mutual funds, e.g., S&P 500 or Total Stock Market index funds.

IMALHTISBO (in my always-less-humble-than-it-should-be opinion), even for experienced investors this is generally the way to go for the bulk of investments. Even professionals with decades of experience don't generally beat the market consistently.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2024, 10:40:49 AM by sguitarist18 »

Offline gozalim

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 4482
  • Total likes: 944
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1004 on: January 05, 2024, 10:42:07 AM »
If you're just starting, I would recommend mutual funds, e.g., S&P 500 or Total Stock Market index funds. An easy reputable low cost place to do so is Vanguard. Also, 10k per each parent per year can be invested in I-Bonds. Look it up on DDMS. The most important advice is JUST DO IT - the earlier the better. Don't get lost in the details. The main thing is to just do it. Hatzlacha!
I bonds isn't the great deal it was a year ago

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1005 on: January 05, 2024, 10:43:24 AM »
I bonds isn't the great deal it was a year ago
Of course, but IMHO it's still a great long term investment, as part of a portfolio. Am I wrong?

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1006 on: January 05, 2024, 10:50:35 AM »
Does anyone know about Robinhood are they good, it sounds pretty simple to invest on their platform, but I'm new to this whole thing,
I just want to put away some money for my kids to marry them.

Any advice is highly appreciated.
https://engage.fa.com.sg/fapl-content/time-the-long-term-investors-best-friend/
https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/08/25/what-warren-buffett-can-teach-us-about-time-in-the/

Offline sguitarist18

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 1911
  • Total likes: 955
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1007 on: January 05, 2024, 10:53:14 AM »
Of course, but IMHO it's still a great long term investment, as part of a portfolio. Am I wrong?

I've never heard from anyone experienced in investments that recommends I-bonds.

There may be a place in in a balanced for portfolio for other types of bonds.

Offline gutlib

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2022
  • Posts: 661
  • Total likes: 307
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1008 on: January 05, 2024, 11:06:34 AM »
First thanks to everyone who's helping and sharing their advice, (I don't think I would get so much help anywhere else.)

I would like to know about Robinhood since they are extremely user-friendly and very easy to buy stocks (it's like you buy from Amazon or even easier)

Offline sguitarist18

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 1911
  • Total likes: 955
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1009 on: January 05, 2024, 11:24:32 AM »
That's actually kind of a disadvantage, on a number of levels. My super-superficial view of Robinhood is that it encourages active investing, which is not recommended for most people.

1) As mentioned before, you're probably best off investing in something simple, like an S&P 500 or total market ETF. Therefore, better to avoid a platform that encourages buying individual stocks.

2) By the same token, better to avoid a platform that encourages lots of buying and selling - you want to build a strategy and stick to it, not make decisions based on emotions. And that can be tough no matter what, if you have significant money that you see lose 10-20% of value within a matter of weeks or months.

3) You also want to (in my opinion) look at what your money will be earning if it's not invested in anything and just sitting there.


Offline gozalim

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 4482
  • Total likes: 944
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1010 on: January 05, 2024, 11:33:22 AM »
That's actually kind of a disadvantage, on a number of levels. My super-superficial view of Robinhood is that it encourages active investing, which is not recommended for most people.

1) As mentioned before, you're probably best off investing in something simple, like an S&P 500 or total market ETF. Therefore, better to avoid a platform that encourages buying individual stocks.

2) By the same token, better to avoid a platform that encourages lots of buying and selling - you want to build a strategy and stick to it, not make decisions based on emotions. And that can be tough no matter what, if you have significant money that you see lose 10-20% of value within a matter of weeks or months.

3) You also want to (in my opinion) look at what your money will be earning if it's not invested in anything and just sitting there.


stone of the "proper" brokerage accounts (like fidelity, schwab) should be  easy enough to learn quickly

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1011 on: January 05, 2024, 12:00:53 PM »
That's actually kind of a disadvantage, on a number of levels. My super-superficial view of Robinhood is that it encourages active investing, which is not recommended for most people.

1) As mentioned before, you're probably best off investing in something simple, like an S&P 500 or total market ETF. Therefore, better to avoid a platform that encourages buying individual stocks.

2) By the same token, better to avoid a platform that encourages lots of buying and selling - you want to build a strategy and stick to it, not make decisions based on emotions. And that can be tough no matter what, if you have significant money that you see lose 10-20% of value within a matter of weeks or months.

3) You also want to (in my opinion) look at what your money will be earning if it's not invested in anything and just sitting there.
Absolutely.

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1012 on: January 05, 2024, 12:10:30 PM »
I've never heard from anyone experienced in investments that recommends I-bonds.

There may be a place in in a balanced for portfolio for other types of bonds.
My answer was directed specifically to a novice, but of course other bonds have a place.

Offline gutlib

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2022
  • Posts: 661
  • Total likes: 307
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1013 on: January 05, 2024, 12:22:20 PM »
so I'm making sure, I need this type?
Account type
Brokerage - The Fidelity Account® Individual
Core position - Fidelity® Government Money Market Fund (SPAXX)

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 18548
  • Total likes: 8946
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1014 on: January 05, 2024, 12:40:16 PM »
so I'm making sure, I need this type?
Account type
Brokerage - The Fidelity Account® Individual
Core position - Fidelity® Government Money Market Fund (SPAXX)

Unless you want a ROTH IRA.

Also, once you have it funded, you can purchase SPRXX which yields slightly better than SPAXX. It will still be considered available cash.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline gutlib

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2022
  • Posts: 661
  • Total likes: 307
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1015 on: January 05, 2024, 12:42:48 PM »
S&P 500 INDEX
is it this?

Offline incendia

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 1284
  • Total likes: 86
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1016 on: January 05, 2024, 12:57:00 PM »
Does anyone know about Robinhood are they good, it sounds pretty simple to invest on their platform, but I'm new to this whole thing,
I just want to put away some money for my kids to marry them.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

I would stay away from Robinhood and other investor apps and stick to established brokerages. I believe Fidelity has a $50 or $100 SUB.

Offline Iz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 7084
  • Total likes: 462
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1017 on: January 05, 2024, 01:26:26 PM »

Offline Yo ssi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Aug 2019
  • Posts: 7480
  • Total likes: 3098
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 66
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1018 on: January 05, 2024, 01:59:56 PM »
S&P 500 INDEX
is it this?
Or according to @niebloomj VTI is preferred
_    ,
' )  /
 /  / __   _   _   o
(__/_(_)  /_)_/_)_<_
 //
(/

Offline whacked1

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 2654
  • Total likes: 581
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #1019 on: January 05, 2024, 03:24:50 PM »
Anyone here try this?
https://www.walmart.com/cp/collectible-coins-bullion/4718514
Whats there to try? You are buying above spot?

There used to be specials on these coins collectors websites selling below spot to bait you in. But i havent seen in a while (i believe Nationwide coins was one of them)