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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #660 on: March 14, 2023, 11:13:45 AM »
Nice rates. Make sure they are CP (call protected).

They are, which is interesting. I think the banks now are under pressure to raise their rates so that depositors don’t leave them to buy treasuries.

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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #661 on: March 14, 2023, 11:17:35 AM »
They are, which is interesting. I think the banks now are under pressure to raise their rates so that depositors don’t leave them to buy treasuries.
Have you checked the banks site directly and see if they offer the same rate? They know with brokerage CD's they are in direct competition with T-bills.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #662 on: March 14, 2023, 11:20:24 AM »
Have you checked the banks site directly and see if they offer the same rate? They know with brokerage CD's they are in direct competition with T-bills.

Correct, these rates are not being offered directly from the bank website.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #663 on: March 14, 2023, 12:43:22 PM »
Nice rates. Make sure they are CP (call protected).

Offerings constantly changing. Was looking at Fidelity. Saw a 1yr CD at 5.40%. I was too slow to act, and by the time I hit submit on my order there were no more available.

See below how the available quantity on the top-yielding offerings is low. As soon as something higher becomes available it is snatched.

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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #664 on: March 14, 2023, 12:45:12 PM »
They are, which is interesting. I think the banks now are under pressure to raise their rates so that depositors don’t leave them to buy treasuries.
The flip side is that this leaves them paying higher rates than they can get in some cases.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #665 on: March 14, 2023, 12:49:16 PM »
Offerings constantly changing. Was looking at Fidelity. Saw a 1yr CD at 5.40%. I was too slow to act, and by the time I hit submit on my order there were no more available.

See below how the available quantity on the top-yielding offerings is low. As soon as something higher becomes available it is snatched.
Changes by the minute.  :)
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #666 on: March 15, 2023, 09:24:46 AM »

His main point is to keep it simple 1 resist the urge to buy or sell based on short term market or econ predictions (no one has a clue).
+ buy bonds
+ keep allocations simple
and other points
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #667 on: March 15, 2023, 08:30:37 PM »
Opened up a Fidelity account, now I gotta figure out the T-Bill business.
Is there any quick guide which help me pretend to know what I'm doing?
Can you share you're steps? Im debating whether to go with fidelity or shwabb
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #668 on: March 15, 2023, 09:53:09 PM »
Can you share you're steps? Im debating whether to go with fidelity or shwabb
Unless I am doing something wrong there is a major drawback to Schwab. Your core account can't be a money market account. So, when I buy something I need to sell shares in my MM account to cover it. Then when I sell something, proceeds go into my cash account. I then need to buy shares with the proceeds for my MM account.

With Fidelity my core account is my MM market account. So, no need for this extra work.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #669 on: March 15, 2023, 10:21:44 PM »
Unless I am doing something wrong there is a major drawback to Schwab. Your core account can't be a money market account. So, when I buy something I need to sell shares in my MM account to cover it. Then when I sell something, proceeds go into my cash account. I then need to buy shares with the proceeds for my MM account.

With Fidelity my core account is my MM market account. So, no need for this extra work.
Correct.

However, I found available fixed rates to be slightly better on Schwab. It's just another order to buy or sell. And Schwab MM has a higher yield than Fidelity MM.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #670 on: March 15, 2023, 10:24:17 PM »
Correct.

However, I found available fixed rates to be slightly better on Schwab. It's just another order to buy or sell. And Schwab MM has a higher yield than Fidelity MM.
You have to remember to buy/sell. Don't you also lose a day's interest each time you have to buy/sell?
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #671 on: March 15, 2023, 10:30:26 PM »
You have to remember to buy/sell. Don't you also lose a day's interest each time you have to buy/sell?

I just did this yesterday. Bought a CD, got a notice that there is insufficient cash and that I must deposit or sell something else to cover before settlement date. So I right away put a sell order on the MM to satisfy.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #672 on: March 15, 2023, 10:38:24 PM »
I just did this yesterday. Bought a CD, got a notice that there is insufficient cash and that I must deposit or sell something else to cover before settlement date. So I right away put a sell order on the MM to satisfy.
This is what I am asking. Say settlement date is Friday. When do you need to sell your MM so funds will be available for Friday? Can you sell your MM on Friday, or does it need to be sold on Thursday?
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #673 on: March 15, 2023, 10:38:57 PM »
Can you share you're steps? Im debating whether to go with fidelity or shwabb
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #674 on: March 15, 2023, 11:13:33 PM »
This is what I am asking. Say settlement date is Friday. When do you need to sell your MM so funds will be available for Friday? Can you sell your MM on Friday, or does it need to be sold on Thursday?

I just did both trades the same day. But I guess you can PUTPAC to find out. I did the trades in an IRA, so less flexibility (no margin, and no ability to just add cash from elsewhere).
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #675 on: March 16, 2023, 07:10:31 AM »
With Schwab I buy a CD/T-bill on Monday and sell the same amount of MM to cover the purchase that day.
With Fidelity I buy a CD/T-bill on Monday and on Thursday (settlement day) it automatically sells my MM shares to cover the purchase.
With Schwab I am losing three days of interest on my MM shares used for the purchase?
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #676 on: March 16, 2023, 10:11:22 AM »
Was looking at Fidelity. Saw a 1yr CD at 5.40%.

They have 5.35% listed now

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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #677 on: March 16, 2023, 10:25:14 AM »
They have 5.35% listed now
They are going fast.  :)
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #678 on: March 16, 2023, 10:54:02 AM »
They are going fast.  :)

IDK if it means anything, but two 5.4% CDs I bought this week are showing a value about 0.35% higher than invested. I am wondering if these have a secondary market just like Treasuries, and can be traded prior to maturity.
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Re: Savings/investments/bonds Master Thread.
« Reply #679 on: March 16, 2023, 10:58:16 AM »
IDK if it means anything, but two 5.4% CDs I bought this week are showing a value about 0.35% higher than invested. I am wondering if these have a secondary market just like Treasuries, and can be traded prior to maturity.
Some CD's can be sold on the secondary market. Click on yours and see if you can sell it.  :)
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