Air Marshals on flights

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The fact of having a right to something.

Calling someone a jerk for not wanting to change seats sure sounds like self entitlement.

[jj1000]

Calling someone a jerk for not wanting to change seats sure sounds like self entitlement.

Nope, I'm with illherman here. If someone does something illogical and actually contrary to logic I call them a jerk when it is the detriment of another.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Nope, I'm with illherman here. If someone does something illogical and actually contrary to logic I call them a jerk when it is the detriment of another.

So you tell me this person is an air marshal and can't change seats but you still call him a jerk. There is someone being illogical and actually contrary to logic but it is not this person you are calling a jerk. What was the reason you gave this so called jerk for wanting him to give up his assigned seat?

[shimino1]

In TLV they have undercover security walking around like flyers.
This one guy had a beat up pink! carry on with him and was just walking around back and forth aimlessly for about an hour.
It was also obvious that the carry on was empty.

[moish]

i once flew business on elal on the 747 and sat upstairs. since the entrance to the cockpit was located there i knew the marshal had to be sitting among us. however there werent too many of us up there, and no one fit the bill. one guy was sitting in a window seat, another was sleeping the whole flight etc. i finally asked the beefy male steward, excuse me, but i have to ask, who is the marshal and proceeded to explain to him why it couldnt possibly be anyone sitting in the cabin. he cracked a smile and pointed to himself...

on rj its very simple to figure it out. especially when im first to board and theres already a very arabic looking gentleman sitting in business...

i was actually apprehended by one of them, but i think i wrote about it on one of my tr's

[yitrap]

i was actually apprehended by one of them, but i think i wrote about it on one of my tr's

Can you direct me to it?

[moish]

Can you direct me to it?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15891.msg294312#msg294312

[yochiek93]

Not air marshes, but outside the terminal in TLV airport you can spot these hidden agents walking around with backpacks like tourists.

or as the janitors in the terminal

[shimino1]

or as the janitors in the terminal

At least one of the janitors is NOT a security guy. hes like 70, Romanian or something simuler, smokes non stop and dosent speak a word of Hebrew or English. Somehow we ounce shared a cigarette and a  20 minute shmooz

[yochiek93]

At least one of the janitors is NOT a security guy. hes like 70, Romanian or something simuler, smokes non stop and dosent speak a word of Hebrew or English. Somehow we ounce shared a cigarette and a  20 minute shmooz

was there once by a chafetz chashud and the janitors pulled out guns and went running

[jj1000]

So you tell me this person is an air marshal and can't change seats but you still call him a jerk. There is someone being illogical and actually contrary to logic but it is not this person you are calling a jerk. What was the reason you gave this so called jerk for wanting him to give up his assigned seat?

He's not a jerk once I knew he's an air marshal. Maybe that's where we go off?

I told him I wanted to sit next to my wife.

[Aj3042]

He's not a jerk once I knew he's an air marshal. Maybe that's where we go off?

I told him I wanted to sit next to my wife.

From Merriam Webster:
Jerk: a stupid person or a person who is not well-liked or who treats other people badly.
So JJ may be right if he considers him stupid (though it's true that in the way it's commonly used I think it sounds like a bit of entitlement).

But CM is right if a jerk is defined in the other way on Merriam Webster:
Jerk: a quick pull or twist or a sudden sharp movement.
I think we all agree not giving up your seat doesn't classify you as a "sharp movement".

[grodnoking]

From Merriam Webster:
Jerk: a stupid person or a person who is not well-liked or who treats other people badly.
So JJ may be right if he considers him stupid (though it's true that in the way it's commonly used I think it sounds like a bit of entitlement).

But CM is right if a jerk is defined in the other way on Merriam Webster:
Jerk: a quick pull or twist or a sudden sharp movement.
I think we all agree not giving up your seat doesn't classify you as a "sharp movement".

Lol

[Achas Veachas]

Not air marshes, but outside the terminal in TLV airport you can spot these hidden agents walking around with backpacks like tourists.

You can tell when once in a while they'll take a flashlight and look into the garbage cans.

was there once by a chafetz chashud and the janitors pulled out guns and went running

Seen that as well.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

He's not a jerk once I knew he's an air marshal. Maybe that's where we go off?

I told him I wanted to sit next to my wife.

I guess we look at it differently. The way I see it he would be doing me a favor by changing seats. If he declines for whatever reason that does not make him a jerk.

[whYME]

If he declines for whatever reason that does not make him a jerk.

I'm with jj on this.
If he has a good reason that's ok, but if his reason is just that "I booked it first" that qualifies him as a jerk in my book.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

If he has a good reason that's ok, but if his reason is just that "I booked it first" that qualifies him as a jerk in my book.

Why does he need a reason? It is his assigned seat. Why does anyone feel they have a right to his seat.

On both of my recent flights I was not able to sit next to my wife. I would not even think of asking someone to change seats for something so trivial.

[ilherman]

Why does he need a reason? It is his assigned seat. Why does anyone feel they have a right to his seat.

On both of my recent flights I was not able to sit next to my wife. I would not even think of asking someone to change seats for something so trivial.

Okay, this is something that only a Yid will understand  Seriously.

A Yid will always turn over the plane until he sits next to his Rebetzin. Unlike you.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

A Yid will always turn over the plane until he sits next to his Rebetzin. Unlike you.

I fully understand this. This is something a Yid will not understand. The one that does not want to change seats is not the one acting like a "jerk". 

[grodnoking]

I fully understand this. This is something a Yid will not understand. The one that does not want to change seats is not the one acting like a "jerk". 

I guess perspective matters.