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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #800 on: April 06, 2016, 09:18:57 AM »
Do i go where i live (NJ) or where they are located? anyone ever been successful?
You admitted that (i) the address on your AS account did not match your ID and (ii) you booked a ticket for a third party. Both are red flags, and you have not confirmed why the discrepancy for (i) and if you brokered the ticket for (ii).

If your hands are not entirely clean, you threatening to sue them (or actually suing them) can come back and bite you hard.


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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #801 on: April 06, 2016, 10:17:05 AM »
Can you please define and elaborate on what you mean by "properly"

Respectfully and with a legitimate legal argument. 

You admitted that (i) the address on your AS account did not match your ID and (ii) you booked a ticket for a third party. Both are red flags, and you have not confirmed why the discrepancy for (i) and if you brokered the ticket for (ii).

If your hands are not entirely clean, you threatening to sue them (or actually suing them) can come back and bite you hard.

+1.  I assumed it was for the typical failure to pay AF.  Actually violating the T&C is a legitimate reason for them to act as they did.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #802 on: April 06, 2016, 12:29:57 PM »
1)I am not sure what is wrong with putting my parents address in my Alaska mileage account.  I can prove that i got married 2 years ago and i get all my not important mail to that address. Obviously if i would of known this would be a issue i could of easily put the address matching to my license when i created the account a few months ago.   They are obviosuy looking for any reason to close accounts weather it makes sense or not.
2) i was actually giving a ticket to my Rabbi who was flying from Milan to JFK with Alaska/Emirates and no he was not paying me a penny.

Is there any other reason they would close the account?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #803 on: April 06, 2016, 12:48:25 PM »
1)I am not sure what is wrong with putting my parents address in my Alaska mileage account.  I can prove that i got married 2 years ago and i get all my not important mail to that address. Obviously if i would of known this would be a issue i could of easily put the address matching to my license when i created the account a few months ago.   They are obviosuy looking for any reason to close accounts weather it makes sense or not.
2) i was actually giving a ticket to my Rabbi who was flying from Milan to JFK with Alaska/Emirates and no he was not paying me a penny.

Is there any other reason they would close the account?

Did you explain that to them in a respectful, non-emotional way, without the use of exclamation marks?
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #804 on: April 06, 2016, 01:01:54 PM »
Did you explain that to them in a respectful, non-emotional way, without the use of exclamation marks?
most likely not at the time (which is understandable) in which they replied case closed so...

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #805 on: April 06, 2016, 01:31:16 PM »
most likely not at the time (which is understandable) in which they replied case closed so...

I'd follow up with another letter reviewed by someone who knows grammar and is level-headed to better explain the situation.

If you draft one, have it reviewed by someone (as above), I will give it a once-over if I have time.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #806 on: April 06, 2016, 02:08:36 PM »
I'd follow up with another letter reviewed by someone who knows grammar and is level-headed to better explain the situation.

If you draft one, have it reviewed by someone (as above), I will give it a once-over if I have time.
ty i appreciate that.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #807 on: May 01, 2016, 02:38:25 PM »
The $75 AS fee hit my account i already merged all my 6 cards on one account and it was fine and my accounts are still active but i dont want to pay the fee so can i cancel this card or downgrade to a free card and then soon the 30k promo is going to come out signup again or is that very risky ?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #808 on: May 01, 2016, 03:57:01 PM »
The $75 AS fee hit my account i already merged all my 6 cards on one account and it was fine and my accounts are still active but i dont want to pay the fee so can i cancel this card or downgrade to a free card and then soon the 30k promo is going to come out signup again or is that very risky ?

TIA
This is the first year AF or second?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #809 on: May 01, 2016, 03:58:21 PM »
Just concluded my first year with the card this would be my second time paying for the AF if I were to pay for it......?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #810 on: May 01, 2016, 05:41:26 PM »
Just concluded my first year with the card this would be my second time paying for the AF if I were to pay for it......?
IME paying the first year was enough.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #811 on: May 04, 2016, 08:12:48 PM »
I thought I remember reading upthread that AS wanted to charge someone for a full price ticket because they sold the miles to a broker. Has that happened more than once, or was that a lone incident ?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #812 on: May 31, 2016, 09:22:44 PM »
Just logged into to my account and saw the message that there were account discrepancies and I have to call in.
If I have a flight already  booked and ticketed, can they still cancel it ?
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #813 on: May 31, 2016, 09:24:42 PM »
Just logged into to my account and saw the message that there were account discrepancies and I have to call in.
If I have a flight already  booked and ticketed, can they still cancel it ?
I had that happen to me and I called in they gave me a warning the next time I sell my miles they will shut me down I can only book for my self and no one else and they released my account and all is good.....

YMMV

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #814 on: May 31, 2016, 09:32:37 PM »
I had that happen to me and I called in they gave me a warning the next time I sell my miles they will shut me down I can only book for my self and no one else and they released my account and all is good.....

YMMV
Tickets were not sold. Booked for brother and his wife. Will have to call in and see what happens.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #815 on: May 31, 2016, 09:46:20 PM »
Tickets were not sold. Booked for brother and his wife. Will have to call in and see what happens.
You must call. They won't be able to fly.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #816 on: May 31, 2016, 09:47:12 PM »
I had that happen to me and I called in they gave me a warning the next time I sell my miles they will shut me down I can only book for my self and no one else and they released my account and all is good.....

YMMV
IME, they really do enforce that no one else policy

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #817 on: May 31, 2016, 10:05:56 PM »
Just logged into to my account and saw the message that there were account discrepancies and I have to call in.
If I have a flight already  booked and ticketed, can they still cancel it ?
Definetly, they can even cancel during the flight, and leave them stranded.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #818 on: May 31, 2016, 10:07:16 PM »
Will do. Hope they cause any issues.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #819 on: May 31, 2016, 10:30:56 PM »
Will do. Hope they cause any issues.

I hope they don't  ;D