Author Topic: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!  (Read 110870 times)

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #255 on: June 23, 2015, 06:34:52 PM »
If they would be paying for the ticket then EK wouldn't care to release the seats, especially a day or two before the flight.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #256 on: June 23, 2015, 06:39:57 PM »
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #257 on: June 23, 2015, 06:43:40 PM »
What the hell does that email say, anyway?! Looks like Yvette took a dump on her keyboard, and then hit "send".
ASS would explain the dumping part  :P

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #258 on: June 23, 2015, 06:45:49 PM »
Just a small update from an abridged version of a 50 minute phone call i had with an AS supervisor regarding my audit - so you guys can either cry, laugh, shake your head, or whichever you feel is the right reaction!
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #259 on: June 23, 2015, 06:46:21 PM »
Me - "BofA paid AS for the miles, then what exactly is the issue with churning cc's, as far as AS is concerned the miles were paid already?"

AS rep - "well, they weren't paid for because BofA clawed them back"

This part I don't understand. I think D93 made a very good point. The miles BoA credits its AS-cardholders have already been bought and paid for.

What right does AS have to yank the miles out of an account that have--from the perspective of AS--been dutifully earned?

Unless the rep is right? Did BoA actually claw back miles and I missed those reports?
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #260 on: June 23, 2015, 06:47:58 PM »
ASS would explain the dumping part  :P

Stealing my lines, are we now? What was that rule about not posting PMs in public?!

Dan, please ban this bloodsucker. >:D

(If you're gonna steal my line, at least do it right: Well, "ASS" would explain why Yvette took a "s***" on her "keyboard".)

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #261 on: June 23, 2015, 06:52:34 PM »
This part I don't understand. I think D93 made a very good point. The miles BoA credits its AS-cardholders have already been bought and paid for.

What right does AS have to yank the miles out of an account that have--from the perspective of AS--been dutifully earned?

Unless the rep is right? Did BoA actually claw back miles and I missed those reports?

Some speculation on FT was that AS doesn't sell miles to BoA in the same way that United sells to Chase, for example. Instead, BoA merely reports card activity to AS and AS handles the miles. Closing the account wouldn't lead BoA to clawback the miles, but it would result in AS recognizing an immediate loss on the 25k miles it issued.

I don't know how true the speculation is.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #262 on: June 23, 2015, 06:53:07 PM »
This part I don't understand. I think D93 made a very good point. The miles BoA credits its AS-cardholders have already been bought and paid for.

What right does AS have to yank the miles out of an account that have--from the perspective of AS--been dutifully earned?

Unless the rep is right? Did BoA actually claw back miles and I missed those reports?
It depends which version you go by, in the beginning of the conversation he said that AS audited the account and sent the miles back to BofA and then later he switched and said that BofA audited the account and clawed back the miles.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #263 on: June 23, 2015, 06:53:19 PM »
Unless the rep is right? Did BoA actually claw back miles and I missed those reports?
It would be nice to know. Suntrust clawed back massive amounts from DL accounts so it might have been BOA.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #264 on: June 23, 2015, 06:56:07 PM »
Stealing my lines, are we now? What was that rule about not posting PMs in public?!

Dan, please ban this bloodsucker. >:D

(If you're gonna steal my line, at least do it right: Well, "ASS" would explain why Yvette took a "s***" on her "keyboard".)
I didn't want to get banned like someone else we both know, so I altered it a drop, and once I altered it, it's no longer YOUR PM.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #265 on: June 23, 2015, 06:58:51 PM »
Wow this is a worst nightmare scenario-getting a rep who's a churner and reads FT.
I just want to point out that this self righteousness is way over the top. What many don't seem to understand is that AS or BofA is not your chavrusa in yeshiva. As much as you try to reason why churning 10 cards at a time is "legal" they're not going to like it and they have every right to react the way they did. Keep in mind just like you say it's "legal" for you to do what you did they say it's "legal" for them to close your account down on whim (which is true).
Please stop making it sound like these evil monsters are stealing the miles out of our mouths. They're simply waking up to bad business practices they have allowed until now.

PS. No offense meant and I'm not referring to anyone in particular. I'm also upset they're waking up but they have every right to do what they're doing.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #266 on: June 23, 2015, 06:59:24 PM »
They might pay 5k per ticket though.
Also, AS may be blaming boa for pr purposes - perhaps with bofa's approval (perhaps due to pressure).
Or perhaps bofa is demanding refunds from AS, and is getting AS to do the dirty work, but why would AS take the blame if they can just make a deal with any other bank?
Otoh, Why would AS care about the annual fee, unless that's just a bs excuse to get out of paying for 5k tickets.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #267 on: June 23, 2015, 07:01:16 PM »
Award reimbursement rates are well under 1cpm.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #268 on: June 23, 2015, 07:03:01 PM »
Award reimbursement rates are well under 1cpm.
You mean how much bofa pays As, or how much AS pays ek?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #269 on: June 23, 2015, 07:03:27 PM »
Wow this is a worst nightmare scenario-getting a rep who's a churner and reads FT.
I just want to point out that this self righteousness is way over the top. What many don't seem to understand is that AS or BofA is not your chavrusa in yeshiva. As much as you try to reason why churning 10 cards at a time is "legal" they're not going to like it and they have every right to react the way they did. Keep in mind just like you say it's "legal" for you to do what you did they say it's "legal" for them to close your account down on whim (which is true).
Please stop making it sound like these evil monsters are stealing the miles out of our mouths. They're simply waking up to bad business practices they have allowed until now.

PS. No offense meant and I'm not referring to anyone in particular. I'm also upset they're waking up but they have every right to do what they're doing.
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