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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2015, 11:55:36 AM »
Have you ever cheated on your taxes to the smallest degree?
I expect answer from everyone
no
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2015, 11:56:06 AM »
What does that have to do with you promoting fraud and feeling bad for them when they get caught?
cheating on your taxes( and CC application for that matter ) IS FRAUD!!! #gmcm

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2015, 11:58:01 AM »
cheating on your taxes( and CC application for that matter ) IS FRAUD!!! #gmcm
...and my question still is
What does that have to do with you promoting fraud and feeling bad for them when they get caught?
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2015, 11:58:14 AM »
no

assuming that is true you are extremely unique .  I will also assume that you dont know that is it not a infringement on halacha to cheat on your taxes in America...

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2015, 11:59:11 AM »
assuming that is true you are extremely unique .  I will also assume that you dont know that is it not a infringement on halacha to cheat on your taxes in America...
According to your LR

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 12:00:43 PM »
...and my question still is
It is common practice, it is halachicly permissible... so I dont even need to encourage it , but i do anyway! 

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 12:01:30 PM »
According to your LR

according to halacha... your LR may not know so much about halacha dont worry thats common too

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2015, 12:03:09 PM »
according to halacha... your LR may not know so much about halacha dont worry thats common too
Notice I left out the "O" by you
Not judging..

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2015, 12:04:15 PM »
according to halacha... your LR may not know so much about halacha dont worry thats common too
Enlighten me please.

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2015, 12:07:43 PM »
It is common practice, it is halachicly permissible... so I dont even need to encourage it , but i do anyway!
So Jewish law promotes committing fraud against the US government and says you should feel bad for the person when they get caught?
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2015, 12:09:05 PM »
Notice I left out the "O" by you <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png" />
Not judging..

Dina demalchusa Dina is one of the biggest misconceptions in Juadisim due to it being very controversial and many of the poskim had there books censored  by governments over the years.Most ppl do not even know what the halacha is coming to say( the Alter Rebbe has a very good take on it if anyone would like to read up on it in chashen mishpat)     

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2015, 12:11:50 PM »
So Jewish law promotes committing fraud against the US government and says you should feel bad for the person when they get caught?
No

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2015, 12:12:25 PM »


the Alter Rebbe   
I don't know who that is but he ain't my Rabbi

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2015, 12:13:07 PM »
This thread has gone into the weird zone of DDF.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2015, 12:14:08 PM »
This thread has gone into the weird zone of DDF.

JS?  ;)
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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2015, 12:14:19 PM »
Cm are we nominating a DACOTYA??

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2015, 12:14:47 PM »

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2015, 12:15:11 PM »
This thread has gone into the weird zone of DDF.
Its actually pretty on topic surprisingly

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2015, 12:15:19 PM »
If you want the Halacha in detail go read up about it... the bottom line is ( and i have heard this from a number of dayanim ) if you speed you are braking the law but you are not chaiv a chatas ( nor are you committing a chilul Hashem but thats another misconception for another day) The only taxes that is required is a property tax from a king whom owns the land and a tax that is based on the head count of a specific community so that if you abstain from paying it makes other jews ( / ppl  not sure)  having to pay more. taxes in the US doesnt fall under either category 

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Re: FBI raids jewish college
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2015, 12:17:53 PM »
So Jewish law promotes committing fraud against the US government and says you should feel bad for the person when they get caught?
Well he never said Judaism promotes committing fraud all he said is that jewish law doesn't punish for breaking "those" laws.