Iran nuclear deal

[CountValentine]

https://worldisraelnews.com/irgc-plot-to-assassinate-former-top-u-s-officials-revealed/

@CountValentine Seems like the Justice Department under Biden is doing the same as under Obama. Not prosecuting Iran in order to avoid the deal falling through. Unbelievable.

That could be true but we are talking about the deal and if it will slow down them getting a nuke.

[CountValentine]

Rated 5 pretzels. What happened under the original agreement and how do we know? I don't know the answer to these questions so it can go either way

1 - You need to get your own scale and stop stealing. 
I don't know if enrichment went up under the short time the agreement was in place. We do know enrichment went up once the deal was voided. Lets remember the last admin wasn't against a deal but wanted a better deal. They failed!!!

[yelped]

That could be true but we are talking about the deal and if it will slow down them getting a nuke.

Why are so obsessed with talking yourself into it?

In a normal world anyone signing the deal would be admitted into a mental institution. There is no way anyone can't see through it. Whoever pretends they aren't is either nuts or evil.

Nothing personal.

[CountValentine]

Why are so obsessed with talking yourself into it?

In a normal world anyone signing the deal would be admitted into a mental institution. There is no way anyone can't see through it. Whoever pretends they aren't is either nuts or evil.

Nothing personal.

I understand the emotions.
It is no different than making a deal with NK or Russia.

[CountValentine]

Is it not in the best interest of the US to delay them in getting a nuke?

[aygart]

1 - You need to get your own scale and stop stealing. 
I don't know if enrichment went up under the short time the agreement was in place. We do know enrichment went up once the deal was voided. Lets remember the last admin wasn't against a deal but wanted a better deal. They failed!!!

Why?

If it went up but slowed then voiding it helped. If it went faster then it did not. There was no expectation that it would suddenly halt everything.

[yelped]

I understand the emotions.
It is no different than making a deal with NK or Russia.

Is it not in the best interest of the US to delay them in getting a nuke?

It's logic. It does nothing. You are giving everything away to mass murderers in exchange for nothing. That's shameful and willful assistance to a regime of terror.

[CountValentine]

Why?

If it went up but slowed then voiding it helped. If it went faster then it did not. There was no expectation that it would suddenly halt everything.

Here is what we know. They stuck to the limits in the deal but went past them once the US voided the deal. They are now closer to a nuke because the deal was voided. That is not in our best interest, a deal is.

[CountValentine]

It's logic. It does nothing.

It did do something. It slowed their progress towards a nuke.

[aygart]

Here is what we know. They stuck to the limits in the deal but went past them once the US voided the deal. They are now closer to a nuke because the deal was voided. That is not in our best interest, a deal is.

Source that they kept to the limits in the deal?

If it is true that seems like the deal was beneficial. Anyone with counter points?

[CountValentine]

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/07/738902822/irans-uranium-enrichment-breaks-nuclear-deal-limit-here-s-what-that-means

[yelped]

Here is what we know. They stuck to the limits in the deal but went past them once the US voided the deal. They are now closer to a nuke because the deal was voided. That is not in our best interest, a deal is.

Now zoom out.

[CountValentine]

Now zoom out.

Ok so I zoomed out and see a bigger picture. Making the deal and lifting the sanctions will put them in a better position when the deal expires and then we have a bigger problem.

[yelped]

Source that they kept to the limits in the deal?

If it is true that seems like the deal was beneficial. Anyone with counter points?

That's easy. Simple, the deal had almost no other restrictions, so they could have prepared everything else for nuclear weapons and then just up the level of enrichment which at their point is only a matter of months.

[CountValentine]

A kick the can down the road plan is more acceptable to most than no plan at all.

[yelped]

A kick the can down the road plan is more acceptable to most than no plan at all.

The mighty USA has no options??? More like no will. Why did Obama not support the Iranian people who protesting the regime's sham elections in 2009?

[aygart]

That's easy. Simple, the deal had almost no other restrictions, so they could have prepared everything else for nuclear weapons and then just up the level of enrichment which at their point is only a matter of months.

I get the theory but is there anything concrete to back that up?

[aygart]

The mighty USA has no options??? More like no will. Why did Obama not support the Iranian people who protesting the regime's sham elections in 2009?

Is there anything Trump did that can be shown to have helped in any way?

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1503034387427999754

[CountValentine]

When watching the video remember who's best interest he has in mind.

The breakout time for Iran to develop a nuke is less with no deal. The only way to stop them without a deal is a war.