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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #180 on: May 03, 2021, 11:40:32 AM »



Now releasing their own money to get our people back IMHO is a good thing!!!

What if releasing the money will most likely cause more than 4 people to die?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #181 on: May 03, 2021, 12:01:45 PM »
What if releasing the money will most likely cause more than 4 people to die?
We can play what if until the cows come home.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #182 on: May 03, 2021, 01:35:51 PM »
Are you confusing ceasing ones assets and freezing someone's assets?


No. This is money that the current regime would (and should) have never seen without radically changing their approach. Giving it to them in exchange for releasing hostages is wrong especially since we know that taking foreigners as hostages in order to have leverage is their MO.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #183 on: May 03, 2021, 01:39:16 PM »
We can play what if until the cows come home.
With Iran its not if its when.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #184 on: May 03, 2021, 01:39:36 PM »
No. This is money that the current regime would (and should) have never seen without radically changing their approach. Giving it to them in exchange for releasing hostages is wrong especially since we know that taking foreigners as hostages in order to have leverage is their MO.
Were these assets that were frozen or seized?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #185 on: May 03, 2021, 01:55:58 PM »
Were these assets that were frozen or seized?

According to this article (whose veracity I know nothing about) it is money that was given to them on the condition that they only use it "to buy humanitarian goods from Iraq." So it was never their money.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2021/03/07/Iran-says-US-approved-release-of-frozen-Iranian-assets-in-Iraq

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #186 on: May 03, 2021, 03:12:32 PM »
According to this article (whose veracity I know nothing about) it is money that was given to them on the condition that they only use it "to buy humanitarian goods from Iraq." So it was never their money.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2021/03/07/Iran-says-US-approved-release-of-frozen-Iranian-assets-in-Iraq
I don't know why you have to twist everything into a pretzel instead of just answering the question. Here is the first line of the article you linked: An Iranian trade official said Friday the US green-lit the release of Iranian funds that have been frozen in Iraq due to US sanctions.

Then we have this: US sanctions have prevented Iran from accessing tens of billions of its assets in foreign banks.

Now lets have your pretzel response.  :)
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #187 on: June 13, 2021, 11:49:29 AM »
Former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says the highest-ranking Iranian intelligence official in charge of countering Israeli spies in Iran was himself an agent of Israel. He did not name anyone nor specify the time period in question.

Ahmadinejad attributed the success of Israel's intelligence operations in Iran to the high level of Tel Aviv's influence and infiltration in the Iranian intelligence and security agencies.

The former president's comments were published after former Mossad chief Yossi Cohen revealed details of Israeli operations in Iran in an interview on Thursday. He implicitly acknowledged that Israeli spies were involved in two explosions in the Iranian uranium enrichment facility in Nantanz, and that Israel has been closely monitoring nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh's moves for a long time before killing him in November 2020.

Referring to the theft of thousands of Iranian secret nuclear document in February 2018 from a warehouse near Tehran, Cohen said more than 20 Mossad agents were involved in the operation. He said the agents were not Israelis, adding that all of them are alive and some of them have already left Iran.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #188 on: August 04, 2021, 09:34:52 AM »
Iran is 10 weeks away from producing fissile material to develop a nuclear bomb, the Israeli defense minister Gantz tells foreign ambassadors.


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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #189 on: March 03, 2022, 11:30:18 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/GLNoronha/status/1499018795926626305

Wow!!! Truly sickening! Unbelievable how unconcerned about human rights this Robert Malley is.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #190 on: March 04, 2022, 07:14:01 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/GLNoronha/status/1499018795926626305

Wow!!! Truly sickening! Unbelievable how unconcerned about human rights this Robert Malley is.

All while the media is distracted with Ukraine.

This is like NYC’s “bail reform” for the Iranians. Tragic, it could take decades to undo such idiocy.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #191 on: March 07, 2022, 08:48:25 AM »
Opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu slamed the government for its purported “silence” in the face of the Iran nuclear talks that are said to be nearing their conclusion in Vienna.

"In the Bennett-Gantz-Lapid government there is only weakness, weakness and more weakness,” claims Netanyahu in a Likud faction meeting in the Knesset.

In an implied criticism of Prime Minister Naftali Bennett’s involvement in potentially brokering Ukraine-Russia talks, Netanyahu says that the burgeoning Iran deal is “what the government must be dealing with now.”


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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #193 on: March 08, 2022, 12:24:11 PM »

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #194 on: March 08, 2022, 12:34:51 PM »
Most believe the western world is doing the right thing.
I posted in the other thread why it will take Iran longer to get nukes with the agreement.
The reports are the breakout time is now less since the US voided the agreement.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #196 on: March 08, 2022, 12:37:39 PM »
Most believe the western world is doing the right thing.
I posted in the other thread why it will take Iran longer to get nukes with the agreement.
The reports are the breakout time is now less since the US voided the agreement.

What about under the agreement? Either way how do we know what they did?

I don't know enough about the north gritty of it so my actual opinions here will be limited.

Using only that time period without a reference point is cherry picked data.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #197 on: March 08, 2022, 12:40:11 PM »
Using only that time period without a reference point is cherry picked data.
That is all we have. Now if we get an agreement we can see where there enrichment goes, up or down.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #198 on: March 08, 2022, 12:43:06 PM »
https://worldisraelnews.com/irgc-plot-to-assassinate-former-top-u-s-officials-revealed/

@CountValentine Seems like the Justice Department under Biden is doing the same as under Obama. Not prosecuting Iran in order to avoid the deal falling through. Unbelievable.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #199 on: March 08, 2022, 12:44:02 PM »
That is all we have. Now if we get an agreement we can see where there enrichment goes, up or down.
Rated 5 pretzels. What happened under the original agreement and how do we know? I don't know the answer to these questions so it can go either way
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