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[aygart]

Vnishmartem meod lenafshoseichem is not nefurash bakra?

It is not mefurash bikra that it includes this case or that it even refers to taking physical care of oneself.

[Work-for-ur-muny]

Then I guess you really do need this spoonfed. There is no tzad to say mutav shyehu shogegin regarding an eishes ish while even if you would consider living in these areas a full fledged issur on the level of eishes ish it is still not mefurash bikra and we would say mutav... Now I am not saying that it is on that level and does not need to be on that level to say that "daas torah" would prefer they not live there in the first place. I am not even sure CBC is correct in his point, but it is ridiculous to make the comparison you are making.

Why not compare?!
Eishes ish = Giluy arayos
Living in the shetachim = Avoda zara (tziyonus)

They are both from the shalosh aveiros chamuros.

[aygart]

Why not compare?!
Eishes ish = Giluy arayos
Living in the shetachim = Avoda zara (tziyonus)

They are both from the shalosh aveiros chamuros.

True (you said it not me) but it is still not mefurah bikra.

[Ergel]

It is not mefurash bikra that it includes this case

If Rav Moshe held it was a violation of the issur I'm fairly certain that wouldn't matter

or that it even refers to taking physical care of oneself.

So you're saying that you would say mutav... if you saw someone walking across I-95?

Anyways, the whole discussion is silly. Rav Moshe published his teshuvos. I don't think you can assume he ignored something because of mutav

[Work-for-ur-muny]

If Rav Moshe held it was a violation of the issur I'm fairly certain that wouldn't matterSo you're saying that you would say mutav... if you saw someone walking across I-95?

Anyways, the whole discussion is silly. Rav Moshe published his teshuvos. I don't think you can assume he ignored something because of mutav

Wouldn't he just answer mutav to the shoel?

[Ergel]

And then publish it and mislead people?

[Work-for-ur-muny]

Well, the gemara also mentioned mutav in certain instances and published it.

[aygart]

You are all still ignoring the possibility that it is not a full fledged issur on the level of eishes ish. Stop making a straw man and argue on something real.

[Ergel]

Well, the gemara also mentioned mutav in certain instances and published it.

And told you that was the reason

[churnbabychurn]

If Rav Moshe held it was a violation of the issur I'm fairly certain that wouldn't matterSo you're saying that you would say mutav... if you saw someone walking across I-95?

Anyways, the whole discussion is silly. Rav Moshe published his teshuvos. I don't think you can assume he ignored something because of mutav

This one was published by tendler.

[Ydad]

This one was published by tendler.

that is untrue. The tshuva is in חלק ו which was printed by R Moshe in תשמב

[churnbabychurn]

that is untrue. The tshuva is in חלק ו which was printed by R Moshe in תשמב

http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=922&st=&pgnum=150&hilite=

Says chelek 8

[Ydad]

http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=922&st=&pgnum=150&hilite=

Says chelek 8

Thats the wrong Tshuva. Nothing there talks about this subject.

[Ydad]

here you go http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=153&hilite=

This is the correct one.

[Live N Learn]

This belongs in the popcorn thread.

[avromie7]

And then publish it and mislead people?

R' Moshe's teshuvos were not made to pasken from they were published for those who learn the whole sugya

[Ergel]

R' Moshe's teshuvos were not made to pasken from they were published for those who learn the whole sugya

So we shouldn't be medayek in the teshuva? I'm confused as to your point?

[churnbabychurn]

1. I never said Rav Moshe said you should live there.
2. If Rav moshe felt it was assur to live there I doubt he would have answered a question about it. (Imagine someone asking a question if he could use a birth control while sleeping with an eishes ish, you think he would have answered?
3. Interestingly, you weren't asked your opinion and yet offered it

1. Aren't you implying that we can infer from the teshuva that R' Moshe was principally OK with living there?
2. I disagree. Facts are they live there and need halachic guidance.
You think he wouldn't answer an eiruv shaila for there? How about a yoreh deah shaila.
3. I actually get paid by the management here to post my opinions. PM Dan, he may want to make an arrangement w you too! 

[Work-for-ur-muny]

1. Aren't you implying that we can infer from the teshuva that R' Moshe was principally OK with living there?
2. I disagree. Facts are they live there and need halachic guidance.

So why don't they turn to this thread?

You think he wouldn't answer an eiruv shaila for there? How about a yoreh deah shaila.
3. I actually get paid by the management here to post my opinions. PM Dan, he may want to make an arrangement w you too! 

Then we deserve commission for giving you terrain on what to base your opinions...  PM for details... 

[avromie7]

So we shouldn't be medayek in the teshuva? I'm confused as to your point?

Exactly my point unless you are proficient in the sugya you can't bring the teshuva as a proof to anything