Author Topic: Jonathon pollard to be released!!  (Read 7794 times)

Offline danrocks613

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 81
  • Total likes: 10
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« on: July 17, 2015, 09:13:38 AM »
Hope this is accurate.

Offline danrocks613

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 81
  • Total likes: 10
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile

Offline Hidden

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 745
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile

Offline zale

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 1450
  • Total likes: 375
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2015, 09:58:59 AM »
If this is true, then I wonder what is being given in exchange... nothing comes free.

Offline SearchGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 6263
  • Total likes: 205
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 103
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn exodus
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 09:59:54 AM »
If this is true, then I wonder what is being given in exchange... nothing comes free.
Be quiet on Iran?

Offline Emkay

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 14412
  • Total likes: 377
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 35
    • View Profile
  • Location: Where I ought to be
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2015, 10:00:37 AM »

Offline danrocks613

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 81
  • Total likes: 10
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 10:04:50 AM »
The lakewood scoop pulled the story.

Offline zale

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 1450
  • Total likes: 375
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 10:18:52 AM »
Be quiet on Iran?

That was my initial thought. This would be very Obama-style.

It's like telling a kid that he is not going on summer vacation and then giving him an ice cream to shut him up.

Offline Achas Veachas

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 4789
  • Total likes: 114
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
    • Torah && Tech
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 01:13:00 PM »
Don't we see such a headline every few months?

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 7232
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 01:33:23 PM »
It's like telling a kid that he is not going on summer vacation and then giving him an ice cream to shut him up.
If it works that would be a good trick.
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline Matovu

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 1218
  • Total likes: 21
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
  • Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond,
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2015, 03:02:43 PM »
If it works that would be a good trick.
+1
And I hope it happens, for Pollard and for the deal to go thru congress.

Offline whacked1

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 2587
  • Total likes: 530
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2015, 04:30:29 PM »

Offline grodnoking

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Nov 2014
  • Posts: 5931
  • Total likes: 767
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 17
    • View Profile
I'm not who you think I am.

Offline Crazy tools

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 2260
  • Total likes: 54
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: United Club, Avis Presidents, Hertz Presidents Circle, National Executive Elite, SPG Gold

Offline zale

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 1450
  • Total likes: 375
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY

Offline avremie

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 930
  • Total likes: 6
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: milky way
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2015, 02:29:14 PM »
It's now official:

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jonathan-Pollard-to-be-released-November-20-410419
If it's true that he also sold information to south Africa and perhaps even Pakistan and his info somehow landed in Russia why is he a Jewish hero?

Offline Aaaron

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 1396
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: Baltimore
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2015, 02:56:33 PM »
If it's true that he also sold information to south Africa and perhaps even Pakistan and his info somehow landed in Russia why is he a Jewish hero?

This.  And he gave information to his financial advisers.  He did it for the money - and maybe for the sense of self-worth - not for any feeling of desire to help Israel.

Offline Aaaron

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 1396
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
  • Location: Baltimore
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2015, 03:02:43 PM »
Cmon! And if he robbed and stole??
We know why he's sitting so long.
Be happy that he's finally getting out!!

Let me guess... anti-semitism?  ::)

He's sitting so long because he grossly damaged our national security for personal interests, pecuniary and otherwise; he egregiously violated his plea agreement, multiple times; he refused to apply for parole multiple times prior to now as he would only accept clemency or a pardon.  I'm sure I missed some stuff.

Offline Freddie

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 3236
  • Total likes: 308
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2015, 03:12:11 PM »
Chevra, stop it, please. It was just tisha b'Av. The discussion here is not whether or not JP is a Jewish hero or...

The only relevant discussion is pidyon shvuyim which applies to all Jews equally. The only time we evaluate the status of the captive is in a case of "kedima" where we have to prioritize in order to make a choice (ie: mamzir talmid chochom before kohen gadol am ha'aretz.) But since that is not the case here that we have a choice to EITHER have JP or have some other Jew, let's just leave it in the category of good news. After that, there's not much else of interest to discuss on this thread. Let's get back to talking about more productive things.


Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 6228
  • Total likes: 916
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: Jonathon pollard to be released!!
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2015, 03:15:37 PM »
The mitzvah of pidyon shvuyim has nothing to do with whether the person committed a crime.