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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2015, 07:46:19 PM »
No because I don't have one.
How a list of those that you say you know enough about to render judgment on?
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2015, 07:47:04 PM »
How a list of those that you say you know enough about to render judgment on?
Another time.

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2015, 07:48:52 PM »
Another time.
When you make claims that you can't back up leaves a great impression.  ;)
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2015, 07:52:12 PM »
When you make claims that you can't back up leaves a great impression.  ;)
You're baiting doesn't always work, only sometimes. ;)
This isn't one of those times.

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2015, 08:19:42 PM »
You're baiting doesn't always work, only sometimes. ;)
This isn't one of those times.
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2015, 08:53:24 PM »
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2015, 10:36:47 PM »
Answer a simple question: does the death of a lion in Zimbabwe deserve this much outrage? Does the "killer" deserve death threats?
No and no.

There is a huge issue today with social media mob justice. This extends far beyond this hunter, who is - by most people's estimation, a grade a d-bag, but even innocent people, or people who make jokes in bad taste, etc.

He does not deserve his name to be plastered across the world, he does not deserve to have his business shut down, or any other mob punishment. He deserves to be punished for breaking the law - if he in fact did break it.

I have read many comments today all over the internet on this story. Thousands of comments are people OPENLY stating that they care more about the death of animals than of human beings. Hundreds of people writing about how human beings are destroying the universe and how we don't need any more humans on this earth, but more animals.

What's your point? That people are idiots? That people are over-reacting to the story? Fine. That's a far cry from your OP. If your point is that animal rights as not as important as human rights, fine. Good point! But that leads you to call other humans...animals?

Here is a fascinating look at trophy hunting:

http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/lion-murderer-walt-palmer-has-done-more-for-conservatio-1720901473

You see? That's an contradictory take on the story without evoking Nazi images, aborted babies or making any other ridiculous equivalincies.

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2015, 02:08:12 AM »
Dumb people learn from their own mistakes,smart people,from the mistakes of others

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2015, 02:12:17 AM »
You're baiting doesn't always work, only sometimes. ;)
This isn't one of those times.
So asking someone to back up what they claim is baiting? I will have to remember that anytime someone asks for a source.  ::)
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2015, 05:43:42 PM »
Apparently someone forgot to tell the people of Zimbabwe how beloved and famous this Lion was.

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"Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"
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"Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."

http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-140822692.html

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2015, 05:49:22 PM »
While I think that killing an animal for fun is absolutely abhorrent and that this guy deserves all he can get, OPs point is also true that many (maybe most) celebrities are animals, and that's a point that's been demonstrated time and time again. (Btw, this is in some ways no different than hunting for sport, a practice many of these celebrities approve of).
I suggest you reread the post. Contrary to what some people believe, Nazi Germany wasn't a historical vacuum which can't be spoken about or learned from. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it. It happens to be a fact that the nazis were very progressive when it came to animal rights and that those same "progressives" also adored animals and yet murdered countless people. So OP's point that often those who adore animals abhor people is true and well taken. What's so difficult to get about that is beyond me. I'm probably more opposed to this kind of hunting than most people yet I have no problem with OP's equivalency.
Remember when liberals were making a whole "Matziv" about a few fish that died in sandy?
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2015, 07:25:38 PM »
Point??
It's Friday and he hasn't had his fill of popcorn.

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2015, 09:44:57 PM »
Point??
Point is everyone is hammering the celebrities because they are outraged about the killing of a lion. From this they draw the conclusion that they don't care about humans. I linked a thread where a baby was burned alive by terrorist. Every member on this forum should be outraged if they care about humans. Lets see if that happens.
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2015, 10:47:52 PM »
Let's start with the planned parenthood scandal.
Can we at least agree that that deserves more attention then this damn lion?

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2015, 10:54:20 PM »
Point is everyone is hammering the celebrities because they are outraged about the killing of a lion. From this they draw the conclusion that they don't care about humans. I linked a thread where a baby was burned alive by terrorist. Every member on this forum should be outraged if they care about humans. Lets see if that happens.

Was there a sale on hay during the Amazon prime day sale? How long did it take you to construct this huge straw man?

The crosshairs is on those who are silent when humans get slaughtered, but are very loud about a lion. This does not apply to those who don't comment on both, or on those who speak out on both.

Caring about animals but not about humans is a Hilter-like quality. Call this extreme. I stand by my statements.

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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2015, 11:10:34 PM »
Let's start with the planned parenthood scandal.
Can we at least agree that that deserves more attention then this damn lion?
I am more appealed about a baby being burned alive by terrorist. I am sure when more members see that thread we will have pages and pages of outrage.
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2015, 11:15:30 PM »
Caring about animals but not about humans is a Hilter-like quality. Call this extreme. I stand by my statements.
You can stand by anything you want. Your statement is based on fiction not facts.
The only logical conclusion here is that these celebrities are more animal than human,
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Re: Outrage over "Cecil the lion".
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2015, 11:17:09 PM »
I am more appealed about a baby being burned alive by terrorist. I am sure when more members see that thread we will have pages and pages of outrage.
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