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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 02:37:56 AM »
We had one here...
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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 02:50:08 AM »
I really think this is a question which should be brought to you LOR
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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 03:03:15 AM »
Unless you have a private pool like dan in thailand its for sure not allowed. There are 2 issuese. For you its not allowed to see other women in bikins or less and for your wife its a problem not being fully covered in front of other people. So even late at night or at a quiet beach
The chance that someone will pass by or look out of window and see her is a problem. For a men, it makes a diffrence as he will not see other girls. I doubt you will find a rabbi that allows it for a wife. Do whatever you want, but dont fool yourself that its mutar.

I would think that a camera is a problem as well. Its for sure not znius for a wife to be undressed were someone can see her, even if its only on a digital screen.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 03:39:55 AM »
If the screens are like LH F ones, its lechol hade'os mutar.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 05:57:43 AM »
If the screens are like LH F ones, its lechol hade'os mutar.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 06:01:53 AM »
Let's annoint Chuchem as the forum posek. This way I can go to Super to get my Heterim

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 07:17:13 AM »
Let's annoint/annoyt him.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 07:33:26 AM »
IME the reason to go swimming late at night or other deserted times is that husband and wife can swim together, not so the wife can go not fully covered. If she has a "cover-up" then i don't see the problem.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2011, 11:38:37 AM »
Unless you have a private pool like dan in thailand its for sure not allowed.
But maybe there were cameras in our villa ;D
So even late at night or at a quiet beach
The chance that someone will pass by or look out of window and see her is a problem.
Honestly, I'll be happy to give anyone a heter to swim with their wife at a deserted Hawaiian beach at night.
Other than that, feel free to ask your LOR
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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 12:53:09 PM »
But maybe there were cameras in our villa ;DHonestly, I'll be happy to give anyone a heter to swim with their wife at a deserted Hawaiian beach at night.
Other than that, feel free to ask your LOR
But in your great haste to go swimming on deserted Hawaiian beaches at night, please stay safe and avoid the 30 ft waves that really do exist. That would be a horrible way to avoid being seen :-)

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2011, 04:45:25 PM »
IME the reason to go swimming late at night or other deserted times is that husband and wife can swim together, not so the wife can go not fully covered. If she has a "cover-up" then i don't see the problem.

together? whats the problem of going swimming together? Why wait for the night? The question was if she can go in a bathing suit. If its mutar, then the day should also be fine.

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2011, 04:49:35 PM »
together? whats the problem of going swimming together? Why wait for the night? The question was if she can go in a bathing suit. If its mutar, then the day should also be fine.
I was wondering the same thing. When he started with "IME" (assuming he meant IMO) I was thinking "what does his opinion have to do with halacha?" The I read his post I was like "Huh?"
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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2011, 06:16:59 PM »
I was wondering the same thing. When he started with "IME" (assuming he meant IMO) I was thinking "what does his opinion have to do with halacha?" The I read his post I was like "Huh?"

Perhaps he was referring to experience when consulting a Rabbi regarding this issue.
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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 07:23:07 PM »
@chuchem, put her on a bhurka

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Re: Swimming with Wife at empty hotel pools
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2011, 07:29:07 PM »
@chuchem, put her on a bhurka
Or a Buruini.

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