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For starters:
Part 1, Part 2, Part 3

Link to "Trick-it" thread on FT, Good Luck!

Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Author Topic: Trick-It Master Thread  (Read 186019 times)

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #300 on: August 26, 2015, 07:07:08 PM »
Last week when someone opened a whole new thread to brag about an MS opportunity after it died, we, the members of this forum, had a conversation about what the purpose of this forum really is if not to share information.

That conversation is happening again right here.

Call me out if I am wrong but I think it is absurd that people seem to think that this forum is more likely to ruin deals than Flyer Talk. Let me suggest that this is based on a very parochial mentality, the same kleinkeppeldigkeit that thinks that Harrison, NY is "out of town." (Yes, that happened this week on this thread too.)

I've really enjoyed the "shmoozing while getting up and making coffee during seder" feel of these forums, but if this place is going to have less actual information on it than the mainstream competition, then I will sadly have to go there. I wouldn't be surprised if many other people feel the same way.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #301 on: August 26, 2015, 07:14:52 PM »
+1
But a simple +1 is not a big deal. I should write 10 to 20 lines agreeing.  Wish I could.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #302 on: August 26, 2015, 07:23:56 PM »
I have to say I'm pretty impressed with @yuneeq. He seems to have known about this inyan and still feels fine with the posting. Very selfless of him (though I do admit if I knew about it I wouldn't act like him-I would be upset!).

I'm still catching up on this thread.

For full disclosure:
I'm not an FD expert, though I have read a few hundred pages of the trick it thread and was able to replicate some FDs. I didn't know about this FD until posted.

Eta:
I fail to see which one of yuneeq's posts indicates that he is proficient in this matter in any way, shape or form. Please show me. Thanks.

+1
« Last Edit: August 26, 2015, 07:30:59 PM by yuneeq »
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #303 on: August 26, 2015, 08:36:30 PM »

Call me out if I am wrong but I think it is absurd that people seem to think that this forum is more likely to ruin deals than Flyer Talk.


I don't see the harm in having a 'FDDF IT' thread as long as the info is somewhat hidden
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #304 on: August 26, 2015, 08:58:57 PM »
I don't see the harm in having a 'FDDF IT' thread as long as the info is somewhat hidden

Forget actually booking the flights, just cracking the clues and uncovering the fare is fun enough.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #305 on: August 26, 2015, 09:00:39 PM »
Call me out if I am wrong but I think it is absurd that people seem to think that this forum is more likely to ruin deals than Flyer Talk.
I think you are wrong.

Maybe not as a general rule, but certainly with regards to certain deals and/or areas. For example any airfare involving TLV, or any B&M deal in LKWD.

And BTW, I think in the context it was posted Harrison could justifiably be called OOT. (Though it's not the word I would use) It could be 10 miles from the city but it's a different world...

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #306 on: August 26, 2015, 09:01:28 PM »
I have 30 other mod reports as well, not a priority when I travel.
If OP really wants this gone he can PM me.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #307 on: August 26, 2015, 09:02:11 PM »
I have 30 other mod reports as well, not a priority when I travel.
If OP really wants this gone he can PM me.
Assuming he hasn't seen your signature :)
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #308 on: August 26, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »

I have 30 other mod reports as well, not a priority when I travel.
If OP really wants this gone he can PM me.

Hmmm.



And also, I did request to have this thread removed last night. But it’s still here.
You may not hold me responsible for any actions taken that were recommended from my account or username.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #309 on: August 26, 2015, 09:06:25 PM »
Assuming he hasn't seen your signature :)
Seems to me that OP has a fully functional brain.

That's more than the dozens of folks who emailed me today can say for themselves.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #310 on: August 26, 2015, 09:14:01 PM »
Seems to me that OP has a fully functional brain.

That's more than the dozens of folks who emailed me today can say for themselves.

The world doesn't revolve around fuel dumps, enjoy your traveling..

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #311 on: August 26, 2015, 09:29:03 PM »
The world doesn't revolve around fuel dumps, enjoy your traveling..
That sounded liked you were trying to be menacing. But I can't tell towards whom.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #312 on: August 26, 2015, 09:34:38 PM »
I like the new title.  Now can everyone calm down?

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #313 on: August 26, 2015, 09:37:04 PM »
I like the new title.  Now can everyone calm down?
+1

Okay, I got one. Ferragmo shoes + champaign enema + Yankees tickets

Nah, just kidding. But that would have been a cool one.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #314 on: August 26, 2015, 09:41:03 PM »
That sounded liked you were trying to be menacing. But I can't tell towards whom.

How do you figure

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #315 on: August 26, 2015, 09:41:45 PM »
I can't find it anywhere but there was once a post about fd where someone was answering what they are and his ingenious explanation was:
There are two types of planes
Those that travel on fuel and those that are powered by manure.
If you are really lucky you can get one that is powered by both
That is a fuel dump.

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #316 on: August 26, 2015, 09:54:19 PM »
Haha

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #317 on: August 26, 2015, 10:04:12 PM »
I can't find it anywhere but there was once a post about fd where someone was answering what they are and his ingenious explanation was:
There are two types of planes
Those that travel on fuel and those that are powered by manure.
If you are really lucky you can get one that is powered by both
That is a fuel dump.

Planes can run on either gasoline (fuel) or sewage (dump). Occasionally there is a hybrid flight that will use both, and those are always significantly cheaper.

I feel like TimT

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #318 on: August 26, 2015, 10:24:20 PM »
Is that wiki for real?! Thought no humans??

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Re: Trick-It Master Thread
« Reply #319 on: August 26, 2015, 10:29:08 PM »
Is that wiki for real?! Thought no humans??


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