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Link to "Trick-it" thread on FT, Good Luck!

Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2015, 08:56:18 AM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #121 on: August 26, 2015, 08:58:34 AM »
just an fyi but you people complaining make it even easier to figure the whole thing out. FD was never mentioned in the original thread. What FD stood for was mentioned much later in the thread by someone complaining and saying its dead. Then people say its all over some blogs. All you complainers just made it much bigger then it could have been.
100% true. Just from the clues nobody who didn't know of this would've gotten it. I didn't know the first thing until I saw in people's posts who were complaining. Now the cat's out of the bag. Seriously whoever knew this should've just ignored it I think and it wouldn't have gone anywhere unless OP allowed it to by giving out more.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #122 on: August 26, 2015, 09:04:33 AM »
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...

No. I'm just curious what your reasoning is because it's clear you're purposely keeping this thread open.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2015, 09:05:19 AM »
So people can save money

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #124 on: August 26, 2015, 09:05:27 AM »
100% true. Just from the clues nobody who didn't know of this would've gotten it. I didn't know the first thing until I saw in people's posts who were complaining. Now the cat's out of the bag. Seriously whoever knew this should've just ignored it I think and it wouldn't have gone anywhere unless OP allowed it to by giving out more.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #125 on: August 26, 2015, 09:06:15 AM »
I would compare a thread like this to one that talks about churning credit cards.
Or FDs have been around for years and airlines seem powerless to stop them. Sure a route gets shut down, but another just pops up, don't see how that's comparable.

Is this really going to cause long-term harm? I think it's just a one-off that'll be gone anyway. So why can't people enjoy it while it lasts?

Besides:

They're both not "violating" rules
And here I thought you don't give a $%^& about rules?
And you asking for a rule change here?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2015, 09:09:05 AM »
Just out of curiosity.
What happened in this thread http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=41814.msg821513.msg#821513
Here's what happened,
Do you guys know what happens when you assume?

I saw it was an FD, I removed the thread and immediately PMd the OP asking if he really wanted to post a fuel dump like that in the public as it will be dead very soon (or could last for years if he keeps it to himself). I gave him the option of having it restored or remain deleted.

He told me that it is already on several other blogs and FT so it'll be dead anyway so I restored it and made the MS post.

BTW, Mesh was singing a very different tune on that one...

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2015, 09:11:43 AM »
Mesh was singing a very different tune on that one...
Amazing. Thanks for the memory jog.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #128 on: August 26, 2015, 09:13:24 AM »
Is there a rule violation here? On what basis am I deleting the thread? What's the precedent here that we're trying to set?
I don't normally delete a thread unless a rule was violated or the OP requests it.

Even mesh himself has had threads that I let stand until he was berated for posting and asked for deletion...
Not agreeing or disagreeing,  but how is this different from cvs/su2c
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #129 on: August 26, 2015, 09:13:46 AM »

I am not sure what this is. But it sure looks to me like FD is the same as hidden city

Ha Newbie.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2015, 09:14:44 AM »
Not agreeing or disagreeing,  but now is this different from cvs/su2c
I would not have deleted that either had someone posted it.
I don't take thread/post deletion lightly.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2015, 09:14:52 AM »
Not agreeing or disagreeing,  but now is this different from cvs/su2c
What's different?

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2015, 09:15:12 AM »
Ha Newbie.
I have been around for a while.
And I still don't see how it's "way different" then HC

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2015, 09:15:38 AM »
Looks like great minds think alike
Ever learnt gemorah?

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2015, 09:19:00 AM »
What's different?
Sorry,  meant to say "how" 

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2015, 09:21:51 AM »
Sorry,  meant to say "how"
I got that, what was done differently?

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2015, 09:35:25 AM »
@Dan
Will the IP of OP reveal if this is a noob or someone hiding under a new user?
Seems unlikely that his first post on ddf is a FD.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2015, 09:37:36 AM »
@Dan
Will the IP of OP reveal if this is a noob or someone hiding under a new user?
Seems unlikely that his first post on ddf is a FD.

First lets censor this forum, then we should start a witch hunt.

All because a few selfish people are disgruntled.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2015, 09:40:35 AM »
No. I'm just curious what your reasoning is because it's clear you're purposely keeping this thread open.

I'm curious why you think he should close the thread.
And I'm guessing the reason starts with "I".
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2015, 09:40:53 AM »
The OP found this FD

Why are you so sure about that?
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