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Booking: "Airline's own site is usually best. It just simply won't work there most of the time, hence the need for OTAs. And some of the smaller OTAs have employees doing manual checks of their tickets, so gotta be cautious there, too." (Moishebatchy)

See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #225 on: August 26, 2015, 01:25:25 PM »
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #226 on: August 26, 2015, 01:27:32 PM »
Actually, I did learn it on my own. I spent many hours reading the thread on FT, meeting other FDers and getting little bits and pieces of info, etc. until I finally started getting somewhere on my own. Only after I proved my worth - coming up with decent dumps on my own - did one of the "veterans" offer to speak to me on the phone and teach me some of the deeper stuff. He was the one who originally opened my eyes to the "dark side" of fuel dumping, which was a very sobering lesson for me.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #227 on: August 26, 2015, 01:27:57 PM »
This has to be one of the best threads ever.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #228 on: August 26, 2015, 01:28:00 PM »
This has to be one of the best threads ever.
Couldn't hold back any longer from this thread, could you?

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #229 on: August 26, 2015, 01:28:51 PM »
See, this is precisely why booking FD's is NOT for the unwashed masses!!!

Here, let me make this nice and clear for you: when booking a FD, you CANNOT call the airline for ANY reason. You cannot call to add an infant, you cannot call to order kosher meals, you cannot call to request seats, you cannot even call to check if your flight is running on time!!!! No human eye (belonging to an airline employee) can ever see your ticket, period. If it cannot be done online, then you cannot do it at all. The risk is too great. Capische?

Oh, and as far as changes/cancellations are concerned... YOU CANNOT CANCEL A FUEL DUMP TICKET. EVER. Even if it's cancel-able online, because online cancellations are often manually reviewed by human auditors. You spent $450 on a cheap ticket to Israel and now your work schedule changed? That's too bad, you're gonna have to eat the $450 loss and let your ticket go into the garbage. If you try to cancel, your greed in saving $450 can trigger the cancellation of tens of thousands of dollars of other people's fuel-dumped tickets. Think I'm exaggerating? I've seen it happen with my own eyes.

NOW do you people understand what I mean by the "dark side of FD"?!

And NOW do you see why we don't like when the newbie, "gimme a cheap ticket to Israel!!!!" crowd gets a hold of these?! Let me tell you, when someone from that crowd gets a hold of these fares and books his family of 10 people for $4,500 total, and then they have to cancel the trip for some reason, I GUARANTEE you he will not resist the temptation to cancel and get his $4,500 back. He WILL cancel to get his money back, and he WILL get the dump killed for many other people. And THAT is a big part of why veterans don't like it when newbies get their hands on this stuff.

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I hear-you definitely have good points and what your'e saying makes sense. You seem to know how to advance a case instead of just yelling.

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #230 on: August 26, 2015, 01:30:20 PM »
I hope Dan could see how many people are crying when seeing this thread, and those people are his veteran members!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Reduce USA -&gt; TLV flights by $415
« Reply #231 on: August 26, 2015, 01:31:05 PM »


And the vets were once noobs.
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Re: Reduce USA -&gt; TLV flights by $415
« Reply #232 on: August 26, 2015, 01:32:17 PM »
Couldn't hold back any longer from this thread, could you?
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
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Someone just brought it to my attention.
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #234 on: August 26, 2015, 01:35:43 PM »
sukkos tickets are gone
chanukah is still available

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #235 on: August 26, 2015, 01:43:44 PM »
Please tell  me you saw it in certain members signatures? :)
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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #236 on: August 26, 2015, 01:44:30 PM »
FYI - completely unwarranted.


Geez I think "Mr. 180" needs a vaca. Lets just hope after all of your ranting and drawing further attention to this post you can still find a flight somewhere;p

Very warranted, actually. You were one phone call away from killing this for everyone.

And get your facts straight, newbie - I'm not "Mr. 180". You have me confused with someone else. Kindly pay attention to the discussion, hmmm?


I hear-you definitely have good points and what your'e saying makes sense. You seem to know how to advance a case instead of just yelling.

Thank you. I just wish people like ycohen had as much sense as you... :)

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Re: Reduce USA -> TLV flights by $415
« Reply #237 on: August 26, 2015, 01:45:46 PM »
Everyone say this 100 times then write it 100 times. Here is your golden goose and it is not just for FD's.

I once learned such a lesson from a very wise man I met at Milt's... ;)

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« Reply #238 on: August 26, 2015, 01:53:35 PM »
I once learned such a lesson from a very wise man I met at Milt's... ;)
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Re: Reduce USA -&gt; TLV flights by $415
« Reply #239 on: August 26, 2015, 02:00:12 PM »
Couldn't hold back any longer from this thread, could you?

If mesh couldn't do you think CM can!!

BTW AKJ has yet to leave his 2 cents....