Tasters Choice (Split From Pictures Thread)

[aygart]

They can say no. Simple as that.

Do you really think that this is the way you would feel after being asked twenty times? Or even once?

[Aj3042]

Do you really think that this is the way you would feel after being asked twenty times? Or even once?

No. But if I was selling a product to those Muslims with a picture they didn't like on it they have every right to ask me to remove it as many times as i want. so there's your difference.

[Aaaron]

Are you a robot-you don't do anything without calling your Rov? This isn't a chiyuv kareis here, nor is it a question of issur. They can call all they want without asking anyone.

 

You know as well as I do that the people bothered by this are more the type to ask their rabbonim everything. And yes, if you're going to attempt to impose your views on others, make sure your views are correct first.

[clear thinker]

Do you really think that this is the way you would feel after being asked twenty times? Or even once?

A company is abviously different.
If the satmar Williamsburg people would have a sign on their window saying: questions?  Feedback call:
Then I would understand if people would call all day!

[aygart]

No. But if I was selling a product to those Muslims with a picture they didn't like on it they have every right to ask me to remove it as many times as i want. so there's your difference.

A company is abviously different.
If the satmar Williamsburg people would have a sign on their window saying: questions?  Feedback call:
Then I would understand if people would call all day!

How about if they did that to a Satmar grocery which they bought from?

[snapit]

אני הקטן שואל, which causes more preoccupation with "pritzus", taking a few seconds to cover a picture with a sticker or launching a campaign to get multiple people (many of whom probably never noticed the picture in the first place) to engage in a futile attempt to have said picture removed?

Aka a " גאמכטא יצר הרע "

[Aj3042]

How about if they did that to a Satmar grocery which they bought from?

If they don't like pictures the groceries have displayed they can ask them to change it as much as they want. Then, depending on the response, they can continue to come or boycott the store or do anything else.

[Dan]

אני הקטן שואל, which causes more preoccupation with "pritzus", taking a few seconds to cover a picture with a sticker or launching a campaign to get multiple people (many of whom probably never noticed the picture in the first place) to engage in a futile attempt to have said picture removed?

Precisely

[ChaimMoskowitz]

So true. I myself sit next to women on planes if the situation arises but I totally get why others don't want to.

Since you follow the Torah 100% then this must be allowed. What justification do the others use for refusing sitting next to women?

[aygart]

If they don't like pictures the groceries have displayed they can ask them to change it as much as they want. Then, depending on the response, they can continue to come or boycott the store or do anything else.

And if it was your grocery you wouldn't feel like they are trying to impose their religious views on you?

[Centro]

Since you follow the Torah 100% then this must be allowed. What justification do the others use for refusing sitting next to women?

You're also just trying to "understand" or you're here to argue/troll?

[Aj3042]

Since you follow the Torah 100% then this must be allowed. What justification do the others use for refusing sitting next to women?

LOL thank you for the compliment. It's a bit complex and you need to understand the nuances of religious Jewish life to really get it. Basically, there's black, there's white, and then there's lots of grey. Sitting next to a woman on a bus or plane is technically permitted by most but some have an extra sensitivity to it that is not without basis or merit. So I'm only going to keep what I am mandated to (in this case where making a fuss is an inconvenience etc). but if someone has that extra sensitivity that's also good.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

You're also just trying to "understand" or you're here to argue/troll?

If I wanted to troll I could tear almost every thread apart here.

[Centro]

אני הקטן שואל, which causes more preoccupation with "pritzus", taking a few seconds to cover a picture with a sticker or launching a campaign to get multiple people (many of whom probably never noticed the picture in the first place) to engage in a futile attempt to have said picture removed?

צדיקים יילכו בם ופושעים ייכשלו בם

[ChaimMoskowitz]

LOL thank you for the compliment. It's a bit complex and you need to understand the nuances of religious Jewish life to really get it. Basically, there's black, there's white, and then there's lots of grey. Sitting next to a woman on a bus or plane is technically permitted by most but some have an extra sensitivity to it that is not without basis or merit. So I'm only going to keep what I am mandated to (in this case where making a fuss is an inconvenience etc). but if someone has that extra sensitivity that's also good.

I don't care about sensitivities of others or so called B/W/G areas. It is either allowed or it isn't. Gay marriage in my religion is not allowed. There is no different areas or discussion on it.

[Aj3042]

I don't care about sensitivities of others or so called B/W/G areas. It is either allowed or it isn't. Gay marriage in my religion is not allowed. There is no different areas or discussion on it.

Nor is it in ours-that's perfectly clear cut. But Jewish law is extremely complex and there are lots of gray areas. There's a reason people devote their whole lives to try to understand it.

[aygart]

LOL thank you for the compliment. It's a bit complex and you need to understand the nuances of religious Jewish life to really get it. Basically, there's black, there's white, and then there's lots of grey. Sitting next to a woman on a bus or plane is technically permitted by most but some have an extra sensitivity to it that is not without basis or merit. So I'm only going to keep what I am mandated to (in this case where making a fuss is an inconvenience etc). but if someone has that extra sensitivity that's also good.

Even if this extra sensitivity will cause a fuss and inconvenience others?

[Aj3042]

Even if this extra sensitivity will cause a fuss and inconvenience others?

If others don't like it they don't have to agree to it. There's nothing wrong with asking.

[yitrap]

If others don't like it they don't have to agree to it. There's nothing wrong with asking.

Asking someone to move? sure there is - In a case where it's quite clear that it will only anger the person/give them fuel to "hate" on the jews.

[aygart]

If others don't like it they don't have to agree to it. There's nothing wrong with asking.

As I have illustrated above, along can be am imposition as well, but I do not think that would be the case on an ElAl flight. Simply asking is not what you are seeing in the news either. What you are seeing is when someone holds up a whole flight due to his extra sensitivity.