Tasters Choice (Split From Pictures Thread)

[Achas Veachas]

Looks pretty "bothered" to me:

I read most of those as a genuine attempt to understand the motives behind the ad, the others didn't sound bothered, maybe amused...

[Centro]

The truth is, in a world where some people don't have an issue shaking hands with opposite gender and in a world where the majority would laugh of someone who has an issue sitting next to women on a plane for a few hours how can you possibly explain to them that there are people who wouldn't look at a picture of a female (even clothed) and definitely try to avoid having an everyday product with one on it?

And even more,
Last week someone admitted here on the forums that he had visited a very inappropriate place and even brought along others,
He wasn't  called שוטה or sick,

Here there are people who try to avoid something for the sake of their and their children yidishkiet and they're being called שוטה and sick,

It guess it all boils down to "No need to better then I am"...

[Achas Veachas]

אני הקטן שואל, which causes more preoccupation with "pritzus", taking a few seconds to cover a picture with a sticker or launching a campaign to get multiple people (many of whom probably never noticed the picture in the first place) to engage in a futile attempt to have said picture removed?

[clear thinker]

I read most of those as a genuine attempt to understand the motives behind the ad, the others didn't sound bothered, maybe amused...

Ummm..

It is a stupidity.

There are sick people in the world.

[Brian93]

Looks pretty "bothered" to me:

I see some confusion, maybe with a bit of annoyance at things being done in the name of Yiddishkeit. Same idea as lev tahor wearing hijabs

[Aj3042]

The truth is, in a world where some people don't have an issue shaking hands with opposite gender and in a world where the majority would laugh of someone who has an issue sitting next to women on a plane for a few hours how can you possibly explain to them that there are people who wouldn't look at a picture of a female (even clothed) and definitely try to avoid having an everyday product with one on it?

And even more,
Last week someone admitted here on the forums that he had visited a very inappropriate place and even brought along others,
He wasn't  called שוטה or sick,

Here there are people who try to avoid something for the sake of their and their children yidishkiet and they're being called שוטה and sick,

It guess it all boils down to "No need to better then I am"...

So true. I myself sit next to women on planes if the situation arises but I totally get why others don't want to. I bristle when people and the media call them names, mock them, or even refer to them negativity between the lines. It's a sick society we live in-any breach of tradition and morals must be tolerated or you're a bigot. But bigotry against perceived bigots is totally ok.
That pretty much sums up the thought process of the Western mind and of the jews influenced too much by it.

[clear thinker]

אני הקטן שואל, which causes more preoccupation with "pritzus", taking a few seconds to cover a picture with a sticker or launching a campaign to get multiple people (many of whom probably never noticed the picture in the first place) to engage in a futile attempt to have said picture removed?

"Launching a campaign" like you call it is more a long term solution.
Covering it is just a band aid.
Again I don't mind and I'm not planning on calling but I do understand and appreciate people's concerns. These are people who go through lengths for their chinuch.
Believe you me it is much easier to take the easy way out, just let your kids listen and read everything let them go anywhere and with anyone.
But they don't, they take Chinuch as a full time job and people have to appreciate it.
Finished.

[Achas Veachas]

"Launching a campaign" like you call it is more a long term solution.
Covering it is just a band aid.
Again I don't mind and I'm not planning on calling but I do understand and appreciate people's concerns. These are people who go through lengths for their chinuch.
Believe you me it is much easier to take the easy way out, just let your kids listen and read everything let them go anywhere and with anyone.
But they don't, they take Chinuch as a full time job and people have to appreciate it.
Finished.

Calling is not a "long term solution", it is a futile waste of time..

[Aj3042]

Calling is not a "long term solution", it is a futile waste of time..

So don't do it.

[Achas Veachas]

So don't do it.

As I said three times, I'm just trying to figure out the motives behind the sign...

[clear thinker]

Calling is not a "long term solution", it is a futile waste of time..

In their eyes it's the best they can do and if you disagree don't call!

[Aaaron]

Was anyone actually told by their Rov that's it's problematic and/or they should call?

[clear thinker]

As I said three times, I'm just trying to figure out the motives behind the sign...

Really now??
And you still don't know it?

[Achas Veachas]

In their eyes it's the best they can do and if you disagree don't call!

So they actually think they have a chance of convincing nestle to change the design of their coffee jars?

[clear thinker]

Was anyone actually told by their Rov that's it's problematic and/or they should call?

You're questioning if it's problematic to look at a lady?

[aygart]

For all of those who cannot understand how calling them can be considered imposing let mgr illustrate with this scenario.

Imagine I nice very religious Satmar family living in Williamsburg. The women completely conform to Satmar standards of dress such as shaving the head, seamed thick stockings, and conveying the head without a shaitel. Now a group of devout Muslims move in. They start going over to the Satmarers and in a very polite manner ask them to please only have their women go outside with their face fully covered except for one eye and to wear only black robes which reach the floor. Each one of the group comes and repeats this polite request. How would you expect them to feel?

[Aj3042]

Was anyone actually told by their Rov that's it's problematic and/or they should call?

Are you a robot-you don't do anything without calling your Rov? This isn't a chiyuv kareis here, nor is it a question of issur. They can call all they want without asking anyone.

[Aj3042]

For all of those who cannot understand how calling them can be considered imposing let mgr illustrate with this scenario.

Imagine I nice very religious Satmar family living in Williamsburg. The women completely conform to Satmar standards of dress such as shaving the head, seamed thick stockings, and conveying the head without a shaitel. Now a group of devout Muslims move in. They start going over to the Satmarers and in a very polite manner ask them to please only have their women go outside with their face fully covered except for one eye and to wear only black robes which reach the floor. Each one of the group comes and repeats this polite request. How would you expect them to feel?

They can say no. Simple as that.

[aygart]

They can say no. Simple as that.

Is that vote you would feel after being asked twenty times?

[Aaaron]

You're questioning if it's problematic to look at a lady?

You're assuming people pick up their coffee container and stare at the image. and yes, where's a source that it's assur to look at a lady anyway?