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Snowden- my hero!
« on: August 31, 2015, 01:18:12 PM »
This man is a true patriot! While those who sit in the white house and are affiliated with Obama's administration are breaking the law he exposed them! He is my hero because he stood up one of (if not the ) most powerful org. in the world and exposed their lies as they undermined constitutional law and invaded every homes' right to privacy. I know it isn't news but the fight of privacy is still being fought and he is the general who leads from the front. We should applaud him and follow ( not to Moscow, and not in his ways ) but in the war against those who invade our privacy and cant even protect it.

in an attempt to debunk the Friday theory,
Yours truly  ;D

 


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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2015, 01:24:02 PM »
The Friday theory is fact not theory.

To that end I agree 100% with you.  :P
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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 01:25:29 PM »
This man is a true patriot! While those who sit in the white house and are affiliated with Obama's administration are breaking the law he exposed them! He is my hero because he stood up one of (if not the ) most powerful org. in the world and exposed their lies as they undermined constitutional law and invaded every homes' right to privacy. I know it isn't news but the fight of privacy is still being fought and he is the general who leads from the front. We should applaud him and follow ( not to Moscow, and not in his ways ) but in the war against those who invade our privacy and cant even protect it.

in an attempt to debunk the Friday theory,
Yours truly  ;D

 
Yes and no.
 Treason is still wrong & illegal!

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 01:26:33 PM »
The Friday theory is fact not theory.

To that end I agree 100% with you. 
It's not a joke!
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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2015, 01:37:27 PM »
Yes and no.
 Treason is still wrong & illegal!

Werent the forefathers called traitors also?
   

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2015, 01:53:09 PM »
Yes and no.
Treason is still wrong & illegal!

See US Constitution, article III, § 3 and Cramer v. United States, 325 U.S. 1 (1945).

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2015, 02:22:42 PM »
Curiosity made the cat smarter.

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2015, 02:23:54 PM »
See US Constitution, article III, § 3 and Cramer v. United States, 325 U.S. 1 (1945).

please elaborate for us laymen. is there a link to see?

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2015, 02:35:42 PM »
please elaborate for us laymen. is there a link to see?

US Constitution, article III, § 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Cramer v. United States

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM »
US Constitution, article III, § 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Cramer v. United States
For those who want a quick summary this is wikipedia's

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Cramer v. United States, 325 U.S. 1 (1945)[1], was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States reviewed the conviction of Anthony Cramer, a German-born naturalized citizen, for treason. The case was reargued on November 6, 1944, and finally decided on April 23, 1945.
Cramer had associated with two Germans, Werner Thiel and Edward Kerling —one of whom he had prior business dealings with. The two were later found to be in the United States for the purpose of sabotage. Cramer was also arrested and convicted on the basis of this association.
The Court decided five-to-four to overturn the jury verdict. Writing for the majority, Justice Robert H. Jackson said that the constitution is clear in its definition of treason, limited to the waging of war, or giving material assistance to an enemy. The prosecution and its witnesses could demonstrate only an association and not that Cramer had given "Aid and Comfort," as defined in Article Three. Jackson wrote that the jury had been given no evidence that Cramer had "even paid for their drinks."
Writing for the dissent, Justice William O. Douglas claimed that acts, though innocent by nature, may serve a treasonous plan. Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone concurred with the dissent.
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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2015, 03:32:55 PM »
I would think there's definitely room to argue that all the info he leaked can be considered giving material assistance to the enemy.

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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2015, 04:50:33 PM »
I would think there's definitely room to argue that all the info he leaked can be considered giving material assistance to the enemy.
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Re: Snowden- my hero!
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2015, 09:34:57 PM »
He's 50% traitor.
I can't decide if the other 50% is a hero or a narcissist.

Basically, he's complicated....