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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2020, 09:42:45 PM »
Come on, now. It's on both sides. The far right doesn't like us any more than the far left does. The left just happens to be more visible and vocal right now. That can change in a heartbeat.
Come on. Are your really blind to the violence that has been permeating this country since the inauguration? Have you seen what downtown's of major cities look like now? Have you not seen the death and destruction Antifa and BLM riots have caused? Have you not seen the harrassment school children who dare show support for Trump go through ? Did you miss Maxine Waters speech encouraging the harrassment of any official in the Trump administration and their loved ones and how it manifested over the years? Would you dare wear a Trump mask or cap in Liberal Coastal Cities? Would You dare wear a Biden T-Shirt in the most conservative city in the US? COME ON, MAN.
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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2020, 09:54:06 PM »
Come on. Are your really blind to the violence that has been permeating this country since the inauguration? Have you seen what downtown's of major cities look like now? Have you not seen the death and destruction Antifa and BLM riots have caused? Have you not seen the harrassment school children who dare show support for Trump go through ? Did you miss Maxine Waters speech encouraging the harrassment of any official in the Trump administration and their loved ones and how it manifested over the years? Would you dare wear a Trump mask or Cap in Liberal Coastal Cities? Would You dare wear a Biden T-Shirt in the most conservative city in the US? COME ON, MAN.

The left just happens to be more visible and vocal right now. That can change in a heartbeat.

I think the left is very loud right now. They have the inner city youth and the college kids, both demos that make a lot of noise and engage in petty violence. The right is just as radical, and when push comes to shove, a lot deadlier. And neither side likes us.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2020, 10:01:31 PM »
Tax breaks for the rich? Crony capitalism? All of his "racist" and divisive comments and dog-whistles? The new liberal agenda is communism. Anything that doesn't serve that purpose is evil. If you're not with us, you're against us. Silence is compliance. We need to rise up and give the power to the people.
I agree that the tax reform act was helpful to the rich and to the poor while the middle class was squeezed once again. But otherwise, it sounds like you're agreeing that the hate is undeserved. If you don't like that the Republicans gave tax breaks to the rich, then vote them out and vote otherwise. Since when does disagreeing mean you have to hate and silence the other side? Way too much radicalism here.

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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2020, 10:42:17 PM »
I think the left is very loud right now. They have the inner city youth and the college kids, both demos that make a lot of noise and engage in petty violence. The right is just as radical, and when push comes to shove, a lot deadlier. And neither side likes us.
I think the radical wing of both parties is bad. But right now the "mainstream" left is radical and the mainstream right is actualy mainstream.
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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2020, 11:01:21 PM »
I agree that the tax reform act was helpful to the rich and to the poor while the middle class was squeezed once again. But otherwise, it sounds like you're agreeing that the hate is undeserved. If you don't like that the Republicans gave tax breaks to the rich, then vote them out and vote otherwise. Since when does disagreeing mean you have to hate and silence the other side? Way too much radicalism here.

Since when does hate need to be justified? Sometimes, if you're lucky, you'll get an attempt at an excuse as to why it's deserved.

In this case, it goes way past a mere disagreement. There are the haves and the have-nots, with the haves working the system to maintain the status quo. In fact, the haves make sure they get more and more, while the have-nots get less and less. There are also the religious zealots, trying to impose their twisted sense of morality on the masses. Abortion, crime and punishment, specifically capital punishment, education, especially that of sciences surrounding creation and biology; the very fabric of our humanity is at stake. How can you let people who believe in fairy tales dictate these issues?

With that as a base, throw in someone who doesn't even try to be diplomatic about these things, as he shoves more and more of his agenda down our throats, add in his divisive and hateful rhetoric and abrasive personality... It's not that hard to imagine how someone can get riled up to the point of venomous hatred. For many, this is all they've been hearing from birth. We of all people should understand it. We've lived it. If you grew up frum, you grew up with a non-stop stream of religious ideology. If you aren't or haven't always been passionately Jewish, you most definitely know many people who are. Most haven't had to come around to that way of thinking, they just haven't known any other way. (Many of us are thankful for it.) If we can be so passionate about our ideology, why can't we fathom why others can feel the same about theirs? And when someone messes with the foundations of our beliefs, that anger, that hate, that fear that we feel, why can't they feel the same? They resort to violence? All it took was a clown with a phone to rile up our own yeshiva bochurim to the point of rioting. Thank G-d that's not usually our way. But you can see how easily people can be brought to that point.
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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2020, 11:19:07 PM »
I think the left is very loud right now. They have the inner city youth and the college kids, both demos that make a lot of noise and engage in petty violence. The right is just as radical, and when push comes to shove, a lot deadlier. And neither side likes us.

Same thing in Israel. It's true that the Palestinian terrorists are very violent. But the Israeli right wingers are just as radical. And more deadly. So therefore we shouldn't point out the danger of Hamas, because Boruch Goldstein is just as bad, or worse. And therefore vote for Hamas.

Liberal logic.

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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2020, 11:27:43 PM »
Same thing in Israel. It's true that the Palestinian terrorists are very violent. But the Israeli right wingers are just as radical. And more deadly. So therefore we shouldn't point out the danger of Hamas, because Boruch Goldstein is just as bad, or worse. And therefore vote for Hamas.

Liberal logic.

Amazing. That's exactly what I said.
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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2020, 12:07:36 AM »
Amazing. That's exactly what I said.
Yup, basically paraphrased it

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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2020, 05:40:48 PM »
I don't recall any anti-liberal agenda laws being passed. If anything, there was some protections passed.

Here are some highlights from https://transequality.org/the-discrimination-administration (that page is much longer than this,
with a lot of it being legal stuff about discrimination on the basis of sex and whether that applies to transgender people):

January 20, 2017: On President Trumpís inauguration day, the adminstration scrubbed all mentions of LGBTQ people from the websites of the White House, Department of State, and Department of Labor.

March 5, 2018: The Department Housing and Urban Development Secretary announced a change to its official mission statement by removing its commitment of inclusive and discrimination-free communities from the statement.

April 11, 2018: The Department of Justice proposed to strip data collection on sexual orientation and gender identity of teens from the National Crime Victimization Survey.

May 11, 2018: The Bureau of Prisons in the Department of Justice adopted an illegal policy of almost entirely housing transgender people in federal prison facilities that match their sex assigned at birth, rolling back existing protections.

March 13, 2019: The Department of Defense laid out its plans for implementing its ban on transgender troops, giving an official implementation date of April 12.

April 12, 2019: The Department of Defense put President Trumpís ban on transgender service members into effect, putting service members at risk of discharge if they come out or are found out to be transgender.

July 3, 2019: The Department of Housing and Urban Development removed requirements that applicants for homelessness funding maintain anti-discrimination policies and demonstrate efforts to serve LGBT people and their families, who are more likely to be homeless.

July 23, 2020: The Department of Housing and Urban Development formally announced the rollback of a previous rule that protected transgender people from discrimination by homeless shelters and other housing services receiving federal funds.

(I had read this some time ago, so I knew there had been changes under Trump.)
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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2020, 06:35:35 PM »
January 20, 2017: On President Trumpís inauguration day, the adminstration scrubbed all mentions of LGBTQ people from the websites of the White House, Department of State, and Department of Labor.

I don't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure this has been debunked. I think it's based on the fact that they removed all Obama specific content (as is done in each transition).

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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2020, 08:14:20 AM »


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Re: Jewish MAGA rallies in NYC today
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2020, 03:21:18 PM »

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