US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[ChaimMoskowitz]

AG, AAG, FBI director and Muller are all life long R's. No amount of #fakenews is going stop Muller's investigation!!!

[henche]

I wonder if Franken realized this morning that he isn't resigning after all.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I wonder if Franken realized this morning that he isn't resigning after all.

...but
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/report-omarosa-physically-dragged-from-white-house-grounds/ar-BBGHXiJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

[aygart]

AG, AAG, FBI director and Muller are all life long R's. No amount of #fakenews is going stop Muller's investigation!!!

Who is talking about his investigation?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Who is talking about his investigation?

I guess you been living under a rock the last couple of months?

[Yammer]

Hence why I'm hopeful that the tide is turning now.

Would Trump have won in this post Weinstein era? People are realizing that character matters.

Since no one thought that Trump will win pre Weinstein, we can simply speculate...

Additionally, Trumps election is part of a movement that has declined over the last year with all the craziness that's been going on.

[Yammer]

Gd bless David French
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454601/alabama-conservatives-made-their-stand?utm_content=buffer2db97&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

I'm confused..it wasn't the African American vote??

[ChaimMoskowitz]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/politifact-names-trump-claim-that-russian-election-interference-is-made-up-as-lie-of-the-year/ar-BBGF4Et?li=BBnbfcL

[ChaimMoskowitz]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/polls-majority-of-voters-believe-trump-guilty-of-sexual-misconduct/ar-BBGHU5f?li=BBnb7Kz

[TimT]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/politifact-names-trump-claim-that-russian-election-interference-is-made-up-as-lie-of-the-year/ar-BBGF4Et?li=BBnbfcL

Run by the guy who said we want to “continue to connect, or reconnect, with the good people who voted for Donald Trump.”

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I'm confused..it wasn't the African American vote??

Combination of factors.

[aygart]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/politifact-names-trump-claim-that-russian-election-interference-is-made-up-as-lie-of-the-year/ar-BBGF4Et?li=BBnbfcL

Maybe we should look back at how many lies of the year turned out to be true.

[aygart]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-trump-insurance-1513210929

They were saying how they need to be in the FBI to destroy Trump. That makes for an unbias investgator
Democrats and the media (and CM) are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?
Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.
“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Mr. Strzok wrote Ms. Page in an Aug. 15, 2016 text. He added: “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”
What “policy” would that be? The “Andy” in question is Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director. FBI officials are allowed to have political opinions, but what kind of action were they discussing that would amount to anti-Trump “insurance”?
In another exchange that month, Ms. Page forwarded a Trump-related article and wrote: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace.” He thanked her and assured: “Of course I’ll try and approach it that way.” Mr. Strzok, recall, is the man who changed the words “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” in James Comey’s July 2016 public exoneration of Hillary Clinton’s emails.
........
The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

[aygart]

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251387/why-glenn-greenwald-deserves-a-pulitzer-prize

[skyguy918]

Maybe we should look back at how many lies of the year turned out to be true.

I think even you'll agree that at the very least, none of the pre-Trump stuff turned out that way.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/look-back-lie-year-2009-2016/

[aygart]

I think even you'll agree that at the very least, none of the pre-Trump stuff turned out that way.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/look-back-lie-year-2009-2016/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/politifact-concedes-their-lie-of-the-year-is-the-literal-truth/article/696336
https://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/20/politifacts-lie-of-the-year-of-2014-falls-apart-only-two-months-later/

For starters.

[aygart]

I think even you'll agree that at the very least, none of the pre-Trump stuff turned out that way.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/look-back-lie-year-2009-2016/

Don't forget, of course, that the 2013 lie of the year was pushed as the truth by the opinion checkers at Politifact.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-trump-insurance-1513210929

They were saying how they need to be in the FBI to destroy Trump. That makes for an unbias investgator
Democrats and the media (and CM) are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?
Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.
“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Mr. Strzok wrote Ms. Page in an Aug. 15, 2016 text. He added: “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”
What “policy” would that be? The “Andy” in question is Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director. FBI officials are allowed to have political opinions, but what kind of action were they discussing that would amount to anti-Trump “insurance”?
In another exchange that month, Ms. Page forwarded a Trump-related article and wrote: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace.” He thanked her and assured: “Of course I’ll try and approach it that way.” Mr. Strzok, recall, is the man who changed the words “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” in James Comey’s July 2016 public exoneration of Hillary Clinton’s emails.
........
The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

AG, AAG, FBI director and Muller are all life long R's. No amount of #fakenews is going stop Muller's investigation!!!

[ChaimMoskowitz]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/look-back-lie-year-2009-2016/

Reading the list it seems they don't play favorites.

[aygart]

Reading the list it seems they don't play favorites.

HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAH