US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[Baruch]

The media is still going crazy about what Trump said about the Khan family. 

Can someone explain WTH he said wrong?

That Mr Khan is a bad guy for using his son who sacrificed for the US for political stuff.

It's not using your son's death for political stuff, when that's the point - that a Muslim sacrificed his life for the USA, and Trump wouldn't have let him in.

[Baruch]

Sounds like you can't wait to be ruled by HRC and the D machine.

No. I just am frightened of Trump. Hillary is a sickening liar, and fake person. But I'm not frightened of her.

[zale]

The media is still going crazy about what Trump said about the Khan family. 

Can someone explain WTH he said wrong?

That Mr Khan is a bad guy for using his son who sacrificed for the US for political stuff.

I have the same question. I believe it's more the way he says things rather than what he actually says. He talks in an extremely childish way that has people worried about his presidential capabilities.

Instead of providing a sharp, calculated response, he resorted to teasing and mocking the parents. Sure, they "started it", but he's still a presidential candidate for crying out loud...

[zale]

It's not using your son's death for political stuff, when that's the point - that a Muslim sacrificed his life for the USA, and Trump wouldn't have let him in.

There are many classy ways Trump could have responded to this. Instead he just farted out the first thing that came to his mind.

The sad thing is that Hillary is such a weak candidate that any normal Republican could have beat her. Instead we are left with Donald Trump...

[Baruch]

The sad thing is that Hillary is such a weak candidate that any normal Republican could have beat her. Instead we are left with Donald Trump...

Yep. Pathetic.

[ilherman]

It's not using your son's death for political stuff, when that's the point - that a Muslim sacrificed his life for the USA, and Trump wouldn't have let him in.

So we should let ISIS flood our country and kill us because we have some great Muslims here too? Give me to understand.
Please do not use political correctness here. Please answer the question.

[oiseli48]

So we should let ISIS flood our country and kill us because we have some great Muslims here too? Give me to understand.
Please do not use political correctness here. Please answer the question.

You're right, it doesn't make logical sense. But for the liberals, it doesn't have to. As long as there's some emotional aspect of it that they can use against Trump, or any republican for that matter, they go for it.

[Baruch]

So we should let ISIS flood our country and kill us because we have some great Muslims here too? Give me to understand.
Please do not use political correctness here. Please answer the question.

That's a good point. But that's not what we're arguing about.
You said the father was bad for using his son's death for political reasons
But the father was using his son as Exhibit A to show why we shouldn't ban Muslims. You disagree. But he's allowed to provide evidence for his case.

[ilherman]

That's a good point. But that's not what we're arguing about.
You said the father was bad for using his son's death for political reasons
But the father was using his son as Exhibit A to show why we shouldn't ban Muslims. You disagree. But he's allowed to provide evidence for his case.

What kind of evidence is this? Where does it even come in to the picture? He did it because he wanted to use his sons death to make you emotional and use it to attack Trump. Listen to his speech. Disgusting.

[Baruch]

What kind of evidence is this? Where does it even come in to the picture? He did it because he wanted to use his sons death to make you emotional and use it to attack Trump. Listen to his speech. Disgusting.

you don't think that knowing that there are Muslims that give their life for the country, can sway the way people think about banning them

If Neturei Karta started bombing all over the US for supporting Israel. And a candidate proposed banning Jews. Would you have a problem with a Jewish Gold Star father giving that speech.

[oiseli48]

What is the percentage of Muslim immigrants that have joined the army? Our country would be better off without a few honorable men, if it meant we didn't have Orlando, San Bernandino, Boston marathon, etc.

[aygart]

It's not using your son's death for political stuff, when that's the point - that a Muslim sacrificed his life for the USA, and Trump wouldn't have let him in.

once again "Mr conservative" with the distorted liberal argument. He never even said to ban Muslims. He said to put a temporary moratorium until we have a system in place to separate the good ones like their son from the violent ones.

[Baruch]

once again "Mr conservative" with the distorted liberal argument. He never even said to ban Muslims. He said to put a temporary moratorium until we have a system in place to separate the good ones like their son from the violent ones.

Maybe Trump's words make me think that. Not a liberal argument.

Obviously at the end he contradicted what he clearly implied in the beginning. But that's Trump.

Check this out too

(I don't claim to be a conservative. On some issues I agree with the conservatives, on others with the liberals, and on many with neither)

[ilherman]

Maybe Trump's words make me think that. Not a liberal argument.

Obviously at the end he contradicted what he clearly implied in the beginning. But that's Trump.


(I don't claim to be a conservative. On some issues I agree with the conservatives, on others with the liberals, and on many with neither)

C'mon liberal. He explained exactly what he meant. It is not all the muslims, it is the radical muslims BUT it is very hard to define who is who. So it would make sense to anyone who cares for our country to stop allowing refugees from the ME to enter our country for now. You don't think so/

[Baruch]

C'mon liberal. He explained exactly what he meant. It is not all the muslims, it is the radical muslims BUT it is very hard to define who is who. So it would make sense to anyone who cares for our country to stop allowing refugees from the ME to enter our country for now. You don't think so/

If there would be radical Jews bombing America, and he would say Judaism hates america, you wouldn't be satisfied with a semi backpedaling at the end. You would be frightened. So don't call that father bad for using his son's death to try to protect his coreligionists.

It's funny you call me a liberal, I voted Bush Mccain Romney. I'm anti Trump - that's it.

[Freddie]

(I don't claim to be a conservative. On some issues I agree with the conservatives, on others with the liberals, and on many with neither)

What? You mean you actually THINK?

[ilherman]

If there would be radical Jews bombing America, and he would say Judaism hates america, you wouldn't be satisfied with a semi backpedaling at the end. You would be frightened. So don't call that father bad for using his son's death to try to protect his coreligionists.

It's funny you call me a liberal, I voted Bush Mccain Romney. I'm anti Trump - that's it.

NO. You have to be realistic! Let me shape up the parable a little. If Israel would be a terrorist country with radical Jews beheading people on daily basis, I'd fully understand if he says Jews behead people and Jews hate the free world. And I would fully understand if he would decide not to let in Jews from Israel. Sorry bro.

You have to stop watching liberal media and look on the facts. Again, answer the question, how in the world are you comfortable with Clinton when you know that she will bring in ISIS to our country? And issue are you taking with trump (read: repeating liberal media) for wanting to look at the problem and do something to it, EVEN it is not politically correct.

[good sam]

Maybe Trump's words make me think that. Not a liberal argument.

Obviously at the end he contradicted what he clearly implied in the beginning. But that's Trump.

Check this out too

(I don't claim to be a conservative. On some issues I agree with the conservatives, on others with the liberals, and on many with neither)

This made me want to vote Trump all over again.

There are good Muslims who love America, sure, but radical Islamists are killing us and we need to solve that problem TODAY--not at some nebulous time in the future when we manage to convince an army of Shiites from 3 different countries to attack Isis.

If we had an effective way to separate the good from the bad, we would, but we don't!

And Little Marco was never a contender. Pathetic.

[ExGingi]

Here's some food for thought from the WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/on-the-trump-meltdown-1470179761):

Voters are perfectly entitled to ask themselves if one of our major parties has thrown up a candidate unsuitable purely on grounds of personality and temperament, but we also should have some humility about the historical moment we’re living through. A narrow Hillary victory or Trump victory might not be outcomes all that distinguishable from each other in the end—whereas a Clinton landslide that produces, like the first two Obama years, one-party government fundamentally out of sync with the American electorate and out of sync with the national moment could be the larger misfortune.

Who knows? But when voters have three months to think about a basically bimodal decision, it’s natural that they will begin to think strategically. Even Mr. Trump’s gross policy unreliability and personal limitations might turn out not to be the last word come November.

[aygart]

Maybe Trump's words make me think that. Not a liberal argument.

Obviously at the end he contradicted what he clearly implied in the beginning. But that's Trump.

Check this out too

(I don't claim to be a conservative. On some issues I agree with the conservatives, on others with the liberals, and on many with neither)

I said the liberal/nevertrump distorted narative. That is most definitely happening. He very regularly said things along the lines of until we figure out what is going on. You are taking words out of context and giving them the worst possible interpretation. Maybe if you would actually try to figure out what he is reallly saying without swallowing the liberal/nevertrump narrative you would see that things are much different than you are making them to be. Will Trump be your ideal candidate-highly unlikely and he is not anywhere near being mine. Will you see that some of the things you have distorted to consider him disqualified actually mean something else and make sense-probably. You are being blinded by your hatred of his personality and I get where that is coming from, but be honest with yourself about what he is saying and you will see that you are misinterpreting much of it.