Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3832821 times)

aygart · « **Reply #18620 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:07:15 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 16, 2018, 04:36:03 PM

Trump has denied many times Russian had any involvement. He said Putin denied it personally to him several times. I guess that's good enough for me.

What Trumps says the Trumpsters believe. Lets ask @ilherman if he believes the Russians interfered in the election.

This CNBC article under the headline "Trump has repeatedly cast doubt on Russian interference in US politics - until now" it gives many examples how Trump acknowledged the possibility of meddling while calling collusion a hoax as early as September 2016.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-has-repeatedly-denied-russian-interference-in-the-us-election--but-not-today.html

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18621 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:04:09 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on February 18, 2018, 12:24:57 AM

Not following this thread anymore, just popping in to say that this tweet may be the worst I've ever seen from Trump. (major achievement!)

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/965075589274177536

The sickest of the sick.

For all the gullibles out there. @ilherman
Is he talking about just the head of the FBI or is he disparaging the rank and file?

hvaces42 · « **Reply #18622 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:11:03 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 02:04:09 PM

is he disparaging the rank and file?

They did a good job of that themselves...(Strzok & Page specifically)

I happen to agree with your general point though, which I believe is that its much about nuthin. A misdirection of the truth, which he is good at.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18623 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:14:21 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on February 18, 2018, 02:11:03 PM

I happen to agree with your general point though, which I believe is that its much about nuthin. A misdirection of the truth, which he is good at.

Except it makes our intelligence agencies look bad to the rest of the world.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #18624 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:16:05 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 02:14:21 PM

Except it makes our intelligence agencies look bad to the rest of the world.

As long as they're doing their jobs, who cares about optics. The rest of the world has been looking down at us at least since W was president.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18625 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:17:59 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on February 18, 2018, 02:16:05 PM

As long as they're doing their jobs, who cares about optics. The rest of the world has been looking down at us at least since W was president.

What happens when our allies can't trust what we are telling them? Not a good situation.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #18626 on:** February 18, 2018, 02:24:43 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 02:17:59 PM

What happens when our allies can't trust what we are telling them? Not a good situation.

Exactly what's happening now...we cant trust our own intelligence agencies to tell US the truth.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18627 on:** February 18, 2018, 03:12:31 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on February 18, 2018, 02:24:43 PM

Exactly what's happening now...we cant trust our own intelligence agencies to tell US the truth.

That's the way you look at it. It is like tearing down the police but they are the first one you call when in trouble.

BP16 · « **Reply #18628 on:** February 18, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 02:17:59 PM

What happens when our allies can't trust what we are telling them? Not a good situation.

And who exactly are out allies? EU? UN? And what situation would that be?

hvaces42 · « **Reply #18629 on:** February 18, 2018, 03:41:26 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 03:12:31 PM

That's the way you look at it. It is like tearing down the police but they are the first one you call when in trouble.

Did you forget who you're talking to? Not I. I think long and hard before I call them

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18630 on:** February 18, 2018, 03:59:18 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on February 18, 2018, 03:41:26 PM

Did you forget who you're talking to? Not I. I think long and hard before I call them

...but call them like everyone else.

Mr. CC · « **Reply #18631 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:25:53 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 03:12:31 PM

That's the way you look at it. It is like tearing down the police but they are the first one you call when in trouble.

lol
Did you never criticize ConEd then you still use them for your electricity? Just an example. but just because you have to use an agency, doesn't mean that you can't criticize them

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18632 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:42:46 PM »

Quote from: Mr. CC on February 18, 2018, 04:25:53 PM

lol
Did you never criticize ConEd then you still use them for your electricity? Just an example. but just because you have to use an agency, doesn't mean that you can't criticize them

Criticizing them is one thing. Tearing them down at every possibility for your own personal gain is what is going on. The key is when you believe a murderous dictator like Putin against our own intelligence agencies.

Mr. CC · « **Reply #18633 on:** February 18, 2018, 05:44:42 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 04:42:46 PM

Criticizing them is one thing. Tearing them down at every possibility for your own personal gain is what is going on. The key is when you believe a murderous dictator like Putin against our own intelligence agencies.

we all laughed when he said he trusted Putin.
But I think we can all agree that the FBI needs to be criticized for this bias investigation!

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18634 on:** February 18, 2018, 05:52:07 PM »

Quote from: Mr. CC on February 18, 2018, 05:44:42 PM

we all laughed when he said he trusted Putin.
But I think we can all agree that the FBI needs to be criticized for this bias investigation!

I am waiting for the IG’s report. Then we have the SC report that is far from done.
It is no laughing matter when he believes Putin over the US. You have to ask why.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18635 on:** February 18, 2018, 06:16:37 PM »

Another one bites the dust.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-trump-aide-gates-to-plead-guilty-agrees-to-testify-against-manafort-sources-say/ar-BBJi9bI?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18636 on:** February 18, 2018, 06:22:42 PM »

aygart · « **Reply #18637 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:36:17 PM »

“The separation between politics and values is the death of civilization.”
-Ben Shapiro

aygart · « **Reply #18638 on:** February 19, 2018, 10:11:19 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2018, 06:22:42 PM

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/965602045926326273

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #18639 on:** February 19, 2018, 11:20:35 AM »

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indictment-leaves-no-doubt-russia-backed-trump-but-was-it-the-difference/ar-BBJjf4W?li=BBnbfcL

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