US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

Actually you missed everything with this post.He denied knowing about both and the facts show he knew about both. No contradiction? His problem is not the news media but his wife. She didn't just fall off the turnip truck unlike your post.

Which facts show he knew about both?

Do you think she feel of the turnip truck right before they got married?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Which facts show he knew about both?

Go back and read the hundreds of post on it.

Do you think she feel of the turnip truck right before they got married?

You need to ask her. Everyone has a breaking point.

[avromie7]

...and new about both.

That's your opinion.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

That's your opinion.

Your new name is Mr Turnip Truck! 

[aygart]

Go back and read the hundreds of post on it.You need to ask her. Everyone has a breaking point.

I do not recall seeing. I would be surprised if he did not know but have not seen specific evidence.

Tried getting through but no answer.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

FOX shows some backbone and backs CNN and our right to a free press.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bustle.com/p/fox-news-is-backing-cnn-after-a-reporter-was-outright-banned-from-a-trump-speech-9890899/amp

[Boruch999]

FOX shows some backbone and backs CNN and our right to a free press.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bustle.com/p/fox-news-is-backing-cnn-after-a-reporter-was-outright-banned-from-a-trump-speech-9890899/amp

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33609/real-reason-white-house-barred-cnn-reporter-joseph-curl

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33639/white-house-attacked-barring-cnn-reporter-take-hank-berrien

[aygart]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/opinions/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape-strategy-zelizer/index.html

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Anyone notice how Trump's attacks on the press has picked up recently. Wonder if it has anything to do with the 100+ tapes or Allen Weisselberg being subpoenaed? Is that the walls closing in on him? 

[aygart]

Anyone notice how Trump's attacks on the press has picked up recently. Wonder if it has anything to do with the 100+ tapes or Allen Weisselberg being subpoenaed? Is that the walls closing in on him? 

Keep in mind that the only reason this tape is out there is because Trump's legal team waived attorney client privilege on it for some reason (despite all of Trump's bluster about it). It was flagged by the independent checker (whatever the real term is) as privileged.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Keep in mind that the only reason this tape is out there is because Trump's legal team waived attorney client privilege on it for some reason (despite all of Trump's bluster about it). It was flagged by the independent checker (whatever the real term is) as privileged.

...and I have a bridge to sell you. It was coming out one way or another just as more will.

They waived privilege to try and spin what was said. That only works if you are a Trumpster and believe Trump/Hannity instead of your own ears! 

[aygart]

...and I have a bridge to sell you. It was coming out one way or another just as more will.

They waived privilege to try and spin what was said. That only works if you are a Trumpster and believe Trump/Hannity instead of your own ears! 

If it is privileged and gets released both Cohen and Davis can get disbarred and no investigation is allowed to use it. It would be dumb thing for Cohen to do with no real gain. What does it help him for it to be on CNN?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/21/politics/trump-cohen-recording-privilege/index.html

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What does it help him for it to be on CNN?

He is getting really bad advice from Rudy.

[aygart]

He is getting really bad advice from Rudy.

agreed, but any talk of hundres of tapes is no more than some liberal's dream.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

agreed, but any talk of hundres of tapes is no more than some liberal's dream.

The only problem is the media has been 99.9% correct on this. They didn't say tapes between Cohen/Trump just there is more than 100 taped conversations.

[aygart]

The only problem is the media has been 99.9% correct on this. They didn't say tapes between Cohen/Trump just there is more than 100 taped conversations.

The tapes may exist but if they are privileged it makes no difference.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The tapes may exist but if they are privileged it makes no difference.

Just like this tape? 

[aygart]

Just like this tape? 

This tape and eleven others privilege was waived.

[Boruch999]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/brett-kavanaugh-nomination-republicans-should-expose-democrat-views-on-abortion/

A fascinating read.

According to this,  virtually all Dems in the House at the time,  voted against a bill placing criminal sanctions on doctors who kill babies who survive abortion, and Obama vetoed it.  Bill Clinton's threat to veto we what kept the sanctions out of prior legislation.

Obama voted against similar protections as a State Senator.  This article provides a defense for him.  I assume if a better defense could be found the WaPost would have found it.

The 2001 and 2002 measures included a controversial line that proved to be a sticking point. It said, “A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.”

Obama took issue with that part of the bill, saying it could interfere with a woman’s right to an abortion, as established through the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision. Here is an excerpt of his remarks from the 2001 floor debate:

“Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a child, a nine-month-old child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.”

Notice that Obama referred to “previable fetuses,” or those that do not have a reasonable chance of survival outside the mother’s body. Obama’s primary concern seems to be that the born-alive act would prohibit aborting a fetus still inside the womb.

Utterly unconvincing.

If all this is accurate,  Obama and many other Democrats would appear to be truly evil people and I don't see how anyone who considers murdering newborn babies a bad thing could ever vote for a Democrat.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

This tape and eleven others privilege was waived.

Who cares.


***BOMBSHELL ALERT***
Cohen now claims Trump had advance notice of Russian meeting at Trump tower.