US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[CountValentine]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-antifa-could-be-deemed-a-terrorist-organization/ar-AAEX6UF?ocid=spartandhp

Why would a president go after them and refuse to go after the white supremacist? One reason I can think of is because he is a racist. Another reason is he wants the racist vote. Any other reasons?

Bump to try and get an answer instead of deflections.

[yitzgar]

Bump to try and get an answer instead of deflections.

Again I will ask you to list the racist groups comparable to antifa, and then we can have a discussion about his possible racist motivation.

[CountValentine]

Again I will ask you to list the racist groups comparable to antifa, and then we can have a discussion about his possible racist motivation.

Answering a question with a question is deflecting. If you don't want to answer that is fine but you got the wrong guy if you think you are going to deflect.

[grodnoking]

Answering a question with a question is deflecting. If you don't want to answer that is fine but you got the wrong guy if you think you are going to deflect.

Answering a question with a question is a proven Jewish method of argument.
This is how we've fought arguments for the past few thousand year.

[CountValentine]

Answering a question with a question is a proven Jewish method of argument.

Of course it is. AKA: deflection 

[grodnoking]

Of course it is. AKA: deflection 

You've never been inside a beis medrash, you have no clue how to argue.
I tend to not argue with you because your method of arguing is too minimalistic for me. I'd need lots of typing to prove you wrong in one Fell swoop. You argue one little thing at a time and I dont have the time and patience to argue like that. Nor the time to type an argument as solid a I can. Maybe one day we'll meet in person and we can argue properly.

[yitzgar]

Answering a question with a question is deflecting. If you don't want to answer that is fine but you got the wrong guy if you think you are going to deflect.

I can only answer a straw man argument by pointing out that it's a straw man. You can't make up facts and then cry deflection when someone points out that you made it up.

[CountValentine]

I can only answer a straw man argument by pointing out that it's a straw man. You can't make up facts and then cry deflection when someone points out that you made it up.

Who pointed out something was wrong in what I said. All I seen was deflection. Exactly what you are doing now.

[CountValentine]

You've never been inside a beis medrash, you have no clue how to argue.
I tend to not argue with you because your method of arguing is too minimalistic for me. I'd need lots of typing to prove you wrong in one Fell swoop. You argue one little thing at a time and I dont have the time and patience to argue like that. Nor the time to type an argument as solid a I can. Maybe one day we'll meet in person and we can argue properly.

Properly is taking one issue at a time. Throwing other things into the pot just shows you can't dispute the original issue.

[grodnoking]

Properly is taking one issue at a time. Throwing other things into the pot just shows you can't dispute the original issue.

Throwing everything else that is relevant to a case in the pot shows you can האַלטן קאָפּ in an argument and that you know what you are talking about.

Asking one specific question at a time is what reporters do in order to skew the questioned persons statements.

[CountValentine]

Throwing everything else that is relevant to a case in the pot shows you can האַלטן קאָפּ in an argument and that you know what you are talking about.

Asking one specific question at a time is what reporters do in order to skew the questioned persons statements.

Someone asked what could be wrong with their AC in another thread. I could have explained the model they have is a POS which you would consider relevant but that would not answer the question.

If you want to argue go look in the mirror. I would like an answer to the question.

[grodnoking]

Someone asked what could be wrong with their AC in another thread. I could have explained the model they have is a POS which you would consider relevant but that would not answer the question.

If you want to argue go look in the mirror. I would like an answer to the question.

First of all, that is not an argument. Second of all, you should tell him it's a POS, because now he will replace whatever he needs replaced instead, and maybe in the future keep on replacing parts when he should have replaced the whole unit. Third of all, no, I will not answer your questions here anymore for reasons explained above.

Forth of all, why am I arguing with about me not arguing with you ?

[CountValentine]

First of all, that is not an argument. Second of all, you should tell him it's a POS, because now he will replace whatever he needs replaced instead, and maybe in the future keep on replacing parts when he should have replaced the whole unit. Third of all, no, I will not answer your questions here anymore for reasons explained above.

Forth of all, why am I arguing with about me not arguing with you ?

Great if you don't want to answer the question. Next time I would suggest you just don't engage. Because when you engage and don't answer the original question it gives the impression you don't have an answer. 

[grodnoking]

Great if you don't want to answer the question. Next time I would suggest you just don't engage. Because when you engage and don't answer the original question it gives the impression you don't have an answer. 

Now I'm stuck in a catch22. I dont want to argue why that's not true but in your opinion that would be giving in.

Ok. I'm out. Take it however you want. Bye.

[CountValentine]

Now I'm stuck in a catch22. I dont want to argue why that's not true but in your opinion that would be giving in.

Ok. I'm out. Take it however you want. Bye.

I will take it as you understand someone can argue more than one issue at a time if they choose to. 

[CountValentine]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/baltimore-paper-blasts-trump-after-his-attacks-on-city-better-to-have-a-few-rats-than-to-be-one/ar-AAEYtEL?ocid=spartandhp

“Finally,” concluded the editorial, “while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are ‘good people’ among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one.”

[aygart]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/baltimore-paper-blasts-trump-after-his-attacks-on-city-better-to-have-a-few-rats-than-to-be-one/ar-AAEYtEL?ocid=spartandhp

“Finally,” concluded the editorial, “while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are ‘good people’ among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one.”

WHat other things "won't they do"?

[aygart]

Where did I say that? What I support is calling all terrorist groups out. I am wondering why Trump is not doing that. The only reason I come up with is he is a racist and/or wants the racist vote. Now you can either address this or try to deflect.

Because he doesn't care enough about racial sensitivity. I support calling out of terrorist groups and therefore support his calling out of Antifa. I would want him to call out right-wing terrorists as well. I also support when Dems call out right wing terrorist groups and wish they would call out left wing terrorists like Antifa as well.

[mushkovits]

You have yet to address the question I originally asked. That is called deflecting.

Sir scroll up -I certainly did address your question. So what you're heading into is not deflecting but rather alternate facts...

[mushkovits]

BO is not president. You keep trying to deflect instead of calling this president out for his racist comments. Don't you understand by being an enabler you are the problem?

Refreshing my memory with all your old posts... even if Mr Trump should Label ALL terrorist organizations as such it still will be no good according to your logic since there are some allegations against him. So regardless of what he does or doesn’t do you will tear him down...stop the nevertrump koolaid.