Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3852242 times)

grodnoking · « **Reply #28100 on:** August 30, 2019, 12:32:00 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 12:04:57 PM

I agree Trumps tax give away to the rich and corporations didn't help the average American.

Plenty of economists disagree with that. Maybe even most.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28101 on:** August 30, 2019, 12:33:36 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on August 30, 2019, 12:32:00 PM

Plenty of economists disagree with that. Maybe even most.

...but the middle class average American doesn't. WHERES THE BEEF!!!

grodnoking · « **Reply #28102 on:** August 30, 2019, 12:58:03 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 12:33:36 PM

...but the middle class average American doesn't. WHERES THE BEEF!!!

That's because most Americans are not economists and don't understand how the economy works. When done right, tax breaks to big companies will cause middle class americans to make more money, save more money, and spend more money; which will in turn cause middle class americans to make more money, save more money, and spend more money... and on and on.

So back to the topic of the thread, socialist and leftists cant see last their own nose, so they just push agendas that look right to your average american, even though it wont help long term (or even short term), because on the face value it looks fair.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28103 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:00:02 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on August 30, 2019, 12:58:03 PM

That's because most Americans are not economists and don't understand how the economy works. When done right, tax breaks to big companies will cause middle class americans to make more money, save more money, and spend more money; which will in turn cause middle class americans to make more money, save more money, and spend more money... and on and on.

Ok but they are asking:

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 12:33:36 PM

WHERES THE BEEF!!!

Translation: Where is my money?

grodnoking · « **Reply #28104 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:38:58 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 01:00:02 PM

Ok but they are asking:Translation: Where is my money?

It'll trickle down to them. They just dont realize that if the business grows chances are they will get more money. And even if it's not them, the economy will grow and make other people more money. Which will in turn bring back those taxes that where "cut".

CountValentine · « **Reply #28105 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:41:24 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on August 30, 2019, 01:38:58 PM

It'll trickle down to them. They just dont realize that if the business grows chances are they will get more money. And even if it's not them, the economy will grow and make other people more money. Which will in turn bring back those taxes that where "cut".

...and if a recession hits in a year? Oh let me guess. Without the tax cut it would have already been here?

aygart · « **Reply #28106 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:51:16 PM »

The only real significant finding of the IG report is how Comey violated the rules with an outcome in mind. That is extremely dangerous to have an FBI Director ignoring rules due to his own personal political views.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28107 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:53:56 PM »

Quote from: aygart on August 30, 2019, 01:51:16 PM

The only real significant finding of the IG report is how Comey violated the rules with an outcome in mind. That is extremely dangerous to have an FBI Director ignoring rules due to his own personal political views.

We are now at a point where anything sleazy goes as long as it is not criminal. Thanks Trump!

aygart · « **Reply #28108 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:56:30 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 01:53:56 PM

We are now at a point where anything sleazy goes as long as it is not criminal. Thanks Trump!

It actually is criminal but the prosecutors felt they would be unable to effectively prosecute. Why was that Trumps fault anyhow?

CountValentine · « **Reply #28109 on:** August 30, 2019, 01:58:56 PM »

Quote from: aygart on August 30, 2019, 01:56:30 PM

It actually is criminal but the prosecutors felt they would be unable to effectively prosecute.

I know it is Friday but lets not start that BS. He comitted no crime, PERIOD!!!

Quote from: aygart on August 30, 2019, 01:56:30 PM

Why was that Trumps fault anyhow?

Trump lowered the bar to this new sleazy level.

aygart · « **Reply #28110 on:** August 30, 2019, 02:06:34 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 01:58:56 PM

I know it is Friday but lets not start that BS. He comitted no crime, PERIOD!!!Trump lowered the bar to this new sleazy level.

How is disclosing classified FBI memos not a crime?

CountValentine · « **Reply #28111 on:** August 30, 2019, 02:12:25 PM »

Quote from: aygart on August 30, 2019, 02:06:34 PM

How is disclosing classified FBI memos not a crime?

He did not disclose any classified info to the press. That is clear in the IG report. According to the IG report he violate policy and regulations regarding those memos. This is if you accept the IG position that once he was no longer an employee he still had no right to release them.
For the record I am on the same page as the IG on that one.

aygart · « **Reply #28112 on:** August 30, 2019, 04:41:07 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 01:58:56 PM

Trump lowered the bar to this new sleazy level.

Keep in mind that this is the same person who didn't follow rules in a previous investigation of the other party as well once his infinite wisdom told him that it was better to violate them.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28113 on:** August 30, 2019, 06:27:48 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2019, 11:16:17 AM

This crosses the line.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-canadian-prime-minister-hopes-hurricane-dorian-strikes-direct-hit-on-mar-a-lago/ar-AAGwp3u?ocid=spartanntp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-canadian-prime-minister-apologizes-for-saying-she-hoped-hurricane-dorian-hit-mar-a-lago/ar-AAGznRJ?ocid=spartandhp

aygart · « **Reply #28114 on:** September 01, 2019, 11:58:28 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/yes-comey-did-leak-classified-information

CountValentine · « **Reply #28115 on:** September 01, 2019, 12:17:41 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 01, 2019, 11:58:28 AM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/yes-comey-did-leak-classified-information

He has a right to his opinion. Just as Comey has a right to say he is vindicated.

aygart · « **Reply #28116 on:** September 01, 2019, 12:23:33 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 01, 2019, 12:17:41 PM

He has a right to his opinion. Just as Comey has a right to say he is vindicated.

Correct.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28117 on:** September 01, 2019, 12:28:23 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 01, 2019, 12:23:33 PM

Correct.

Then we have the report which states: "We found no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the Memos to members of the media."

Lets not let facts get in the way of propaganda.

aygart · « **Reply #28118 on:** September 01, 2019, 12:32:48 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 01, 2019, 12:28:23 PM

Then we have the report which states: "We found no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the Memos to members of the media."

Lets not let facts get in the way of propaganda.

Did you read what he wrote?

CountValentine · « **Reply #28119 on:** September 01, 2019, 12:37:17 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 01, 2019, 12:32:48 PM

Did you read what he wrote?

Who, the guy with the one-sided opinion? If so, yes.
Now did you read the report?

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