US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

No candidate in the history of time had a realistic platform.

+1

Makes no sense either way.

The entire time the talk has been that Hillary would win not because of her but because of her campaign. Hence the campaign without the candidate

With Trump it has been his marketing/PR/personality/ability to control the news cycle with a disfuntional campaign. Hence the candidate without the campaign.

[zale]

No candidate in the history of time had a realistic platform.

There is a big difference between "I will reform healthcare" vs "I will round up 11 million illegal immigrants and deport them, then build a multi-billion dollar wall and make Mexico pay for it". Don't you think?

[aygart]

[aygart]

There is a big difference between "I will reform healthcare" vs "I will round up 11 million illegal immigrants and deport them, then build a multi-billion dollar wall and make Mexico pay for it". Don't you think?

How about the oceans receding etc.

[yuneeq]

There is a big difference between "I will reform healthcare" vs "I will round up 11 million illegal immigrants and deport them, then build a multi-billion dollar wall and make Mexico pay for it". Don't you think?

Not really. Both are unrealistic at the end of the day and it's pointless to argue which seems more egregious.

The claim that they will fix the healthcare system with all their backwards solutions was 100% unrealistic.
It's like saying you will build a house with rubber bands and glue. Sure, it makes sense that you can build a house, but realistically you will need the right tools.

[aygart]

[aygart]

Interesting point about the polls. The recent tightening has happen almost exclusively by Trump's numbers rising with Clinton's almost steady. Even the most recent polls have at most a small portion of the polling done post the "deplorable" comment and her health episode. If her numbers begin to drop besides Trump's rising it will make the changes much more drastic.

[Eliyohu]

Not sure about the rest but trump is leading on CO the maps got that wrong should be white or slightly red..

[hachover]

Bottom line is, he could win. Or she could. Why can't we just make up our minds in this country and vote? Why does this have to be 2 years worth of endless punditry and polls? If it takes you that long to make a decision, then you're probably not a very good decision maker.

[aygart]

Not sure about the rest but trump is leading on CO the maps got that wrong should be white or slightly red..

Sources? One poll is not enough.

[Eliyohu]

Sources? One poll is not enough.

You're right, was everyone discussing the same reuters/ispos poll.
The last two months she was clearly in the lead at some points even by double digits, we'll have to wait for other polling data to be released that was taken since this past weekend

[aygart]

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/14/heres-how-two-twitter-pranksters-convinced-the-world-that-pepe-the-frog-meme-is-just-a-front-for-white-nationalism/
https://heatst.com/life/no-hillary-pepe-the-frog-is-not-a-racist-meme/


https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/

[aygart]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiSkO3L8I_PAhXLaD4KHePuAoUQqQIILTAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fdavid-who-1473871041&usg=AFQjCNFp5Zvfq8b_zwkiDK85HWz9Gu40VQ&sig2=MWSNyGRD82aD8jcTzbMOXA

Mrs. Clinton, in other words, has given the Americans she deplores a new identity that they can be proud of. This column is going to start capitalizing Deplorable when used as a noun, and we’d like to suggest a broader definition, one that likely includes many of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters as well:

Have you ever been wrongfully accused of being “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it”? If so, you are a Deplorable.

Have you ever stopped yourself from expressing an opinion because you worried that you might be wrongfully accused of being “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it”? If so, you are a Deplorable.

Have you ever felt bad for somebody who was wrongfully accused of being “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it,” but said nothing because you were afraid offering a defense would stigmatize you? If so, you are a Deplorable.

Mike Pence was right. David Duke is not a Deplorable; he is a racist. Thanks to the maladroit Mrs. Clinton, we now have the language to make that distinction.

[aygart]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/upshot/hispanic-and-black-support-for-hillary-clinton-is-overrated.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fus&_r=0

[good sam]

His "margin of error" comment is misleading. The margin of error is much slimmer for Trump because he has to win FL and OH to even get close. Hillary wins either of those and her margin of error is wide.

[good sam]

Wow, good for her!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172

[aygart]

Wow, good for her!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172

+1 If she would have done the same to Hillary

[Moshe123]

"Bernie Sanders and I are very similar on trade deals," Donald Trump tells Canton crowd

[aygart]

"Bernie Sanders and I are very similar on trade deals," Donald Trump tells Canton crowd

That happens to be something he and others have been saying for quite some time-during the primaries already.

[ilherman]

"Bernie Sanders and I are very similar on trade deals," Donald Trump tells Canton crowd

Is this the first time you heard about this?

What are you trying to say? If you are trying to make a fool out of trump you just fooled your self.  They both have been talking a lot about trade.

BTW how much do the Clinton's pay a week for your work?