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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 1360867 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29505 on: January 22, 2020, 08:11:32 AM »
And their statements must be given to defense prior to trial. The prosecution does not get to call surprise witnesses nor does it get to call investigatory witnesses during the trial. They must have completed their investigation prior. They do not get to ask for new documents during the trial phase. In fact all investigatory documents must be turned over to the defense. You are arguing against the senate following the rules of due process and claiming to be advocating for a fair trial. Any trila conducted in the manner you are advocating would be thrown out in a heartbeat due to its bias towarss the prosecution and violations of the defendant's right to due process. I understand why you are doing this and why you are distorting trila rules. That you call it fair only shows that you are mUCH more biased than anyone here.
You have completely lost your mind. The R's have complete control over this.
Lets take one example. The D's want John Bolton called as a witnesses because he has direct knowledge of this whole mess. In a fair trail or any trail he would be called as a witnesses. The R's are blocking this. You can spin this anyway you want but the fact is he is a material witness in this trial and should be called. He might exonerate the president or supply damaging info. I have no idea but he needs to be heard or most will think this is a sham trial and be correct!!!
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29506 on: January 22, 2020, 08:22:06 AM »
You have completely lost your mind. The R's have complete control over this.
Lets take one example. The D's want John Bolton called as a witnesses because he has direct knowledge of this whole mess. In a fair trail or any trail he would be called as a witnesses. The R's are blocking this. You can spin this anyway you want but the fact is he is a material witness in this trial and should be called. He might exonerate the president or supply damaging info. I have no idea but he needs to be heard or most will think this is a sham trial and be correct!!!

He would have been called in the discovery phase. That he was not would be in and of itself grounds for the defense to object. In a fair trial you don't have witnesses who are unknown whether they are for the prosecution or for the defense.

You are apparently clueless about how a trial works or willingly ignoring it.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29507 on: January 22, 2020, 08:30:01 AM »
He would have been called in the discovery phase.
The R's have complete control of this. What part don't you understand?
The House indicted the president (articles of impeachment). The ball is now in the senates court. They decide on everything now. If they want discovery they can have it. If they want witnesses they can have it. If they want documents they can have it. 
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29508 on: January 22, 2020, 08:32:09 AM »
You are apparently clueless about how a trial works or willingly ignoring it.
Would you like to put your money where your mouth is? Money goes to a charity of our choosing. How much?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29509 on: January 22, 2020, 08:37:17 AM »
The R's have complete control of this. What part don't you understand?
The House indicted the president (articles of impeachment). The ball is now in the senates court. They decide on everything now. If they want discovery they can have it. If they want witnesses they can have it. If they want documents they can have it.
Ah so it is the impeachment process you don't understand?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29510 on: January 22, 2020, 08:38:18 AM »
Would you like to put your money where your mouth is? Money goes to a charity of our choosing. How much?
You will never find me betting. You know that.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29511 on: January 22, 2020, 08:41:50 AM »
Ah so it is the impeachment process you don't understand?
It is the constitution you don't understand? The senate has the sole authority over the processes. They can have discovery, witnesses, documents among other things as they choose. What part of this don't you understand?

Where in the constitution does it say you can only have witnesses in the senate trial that were only part of the house impeachment process? There is none and you know it.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29512 on: January 22, 2020, 08:42:38 AM »
You will never find me betting. You know that.
I am I will never find you being an impartial juror. We both know that.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29513 on: January 22, 2020, 08:45:58 AM »
Lets slow down and back up for a minute. According to our constitution is the Senate allowed to call John Bolton as a witness in this trial?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29514 on: January 22, 2020, 08:54:35 AM »
I'm just wondering. What happens if they call Bolton to testify and he doesn't give they type of testimony that most democrats are hoping for. Will they say we were wrong or at least accept what he's saying or will they just move onto the next reason why it's not a fair trail (IE he's really a secret friend of Trump so still hiding stuff, we need to call more witnesses, etc). If the republicans believe that its the latter, then I would think at some point they have to say enough is enough, no?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29515 on: January 22, 2020, 08:58:24 AM »
I'm just wondering. What happens if they call Bolton to testify and he doesn't give they type of testimony that most democrats are hoping for. Will they say we were wrong or at least accept what he's saying or will they just move onto the next reason why it's not a fair trail (IE he's really a secret friend of Trump so still hiding stuff, we need to call more witnesses, etc). If the republicans believe that its the latter, then I would think at some point they have to say enough is enough, no?
You need to look at this as an impartial juror. As an impartial juror wouldn't you want to hear from Bolton who has direct knowledge of this whole mess? That is all that should matter if one is truly impartial. You should want as much info as possible to make an informed decision.

To answer your question. Some D's will never be satisfied.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29516 on: January 22, 2020, 09:10:57 AM »
You need to look at this as an impartial juror. As an impartial juror wouldn't you want to hear from Bolton who has direct knowledge of this whole mess? That is all that should matter if one is truly impartial. You should want as much info as possible to make an informed decision.

To answer your question. Some D's will never be satisfied.
Obviously some Democrat's ever be satisfied, as some Republicans won't be. What about the big one's (like the Speaker and the Managers)? What about the majority of the party? What will be the general tone? Will they insist it's still unfair, further dividing the country or will they say we did our due diligence, there was a process, a fair jury, etc?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29517 on: January 22, 2020, 09:15:37 AM »
Obviously some Democrat's ever be satisfied, as some Republicans won't be. What about the big one's (like the Speaker and the Managers)? What about the majority of the party? What will be the general tone? Will they insist it's still unfair, further dividing the country or will they say we did our due diligence, there was a process, a fair jury, etc?
Hard to say which ones will do what.
The country as a whole overwhelmingly wants witnesses. If that doesn't happen then they will see it is not fair and they will be correct. 
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29518 on: January 22, 2020, 09:18:11 AM »
It is the constitution you don't understand? The senate has the sole authority over the processes. They can have discovery, witnesses, documents among other things as they choose. What part of this don't you understand?

Where in the constitution does it say you can only have witnesses in the senate trial that were only part of the house impeachment process? There is none and you know it.
The constitution is one sentence which says that the Senate is the Trial phase.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29519 on: January 22, 2020, 09:18:49 AM »
Hard to say which ones will do what.
The country as a whole overwhelmingly wants witnesses. If that doesn't happen then they will see it is not fair and they will be correct. 
They should call witnesses but it should not be at the House's behest. They had their chance.