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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3770170 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29680 on: January 24, 2020, 12:37:40 PM »
Yes it would be wrong. There is other things going on in this world.
Would it be wrong for me to conclude you agree with Trump they are just headaches and not serious injuries?
I honestly haven't really been following much of the other things going on in the world this week, so I don't even know what you're talking about. But I'll definitely agree that Trump often says stupid things, and often seems to be just running his mouth without thinking. (Is there anyone here who would disagree on that?)

Your two questions don't make sense when pitted against each other.
Legitimate: Did Trump abuse his power? If you believe so is that an impeachable offense?
So in other words you're choosing option 1, you're saying there's a legitimate question whether or not Trump committed an impeachable offense. You're not making an honest case for impeachment based on all the current evidence.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29681 on: January 24, 2020, 12:41:13 PM »
So in other words you're choosing option 1, you're saying there's a legitimate question whether or not Trump committed an impeachable offense. You're not making an honest case for impeachment based on all the current evidence.
Are you asking should have the house impeached him based on the evidence?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29682 on: January 24, 2020, 12:49:16 PM »
Are you asking should have the house impeached him based on the evidence?
No.
I put forth a premise that based on all the current evidence, it's not possible to make an honest case for impeachment, and challenged you to prove me wrong.

Instead of making an honest case for impeachment you're talking about whether there are legitimate questions.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29683 on: January 24, 2020, 12:51:49 PM »
No.
I put forth a premise that based on all the current evidence, it's not possible to make an honest case for impeachment, and challenged you to prove me wrong.

Instead of making an honest case for impeachment you're talking about whether there are legitimate questions.
The honest case for impeachment is he abused his power to get dirt on a political opponent.
How many times do I have to say this?

ETA: Wait a minute. You want me to list the evidence step by step starting with the phone call?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29684 on: January 24, 2020, 01:01:09 PM »
The honest case for impeachment is he abused his power to get dirt on a political opponent.
How many times do I have to say this?
This is the first time you've said it as fact, not as a question.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29685 on: January 24, 2020, 01:05:43 PM »
This is the first time you've said it as fact, not as a question.
It is not a fact he abused his power. That is the what they are trying to prove and all of us (not the nutcases on both sides) are trying to figure out.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29686 on: January 24, 2020, 01:13:02 PM »
is abuse of power impeachable?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29687 on: January 24, 2020, 01:14:41 PM »
It is not a fact he abused his power. That is the what they are trying to prove and all of us (not the nutcases on both sides) are trying to figure out.
Huh?

Is your "honest case for impeachment" not that he did in fact abuse his power to dig up dirt on his political opponent and should therefore be thrown out of office?
 
Or are you suggesting he should be thrown out of office because he might've abused his power but we're not really sure yet if he did?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29688 on: January 24, 2020, 01:15:26 PM »
is abuse of power impeachable?
Great question.
R's = no
D's = yes
I's = not sure
CV = courts should decide
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29689 on: January 24, 2020, 01:17:16 PM »
Huh?
There is a trial going on to decide if he abused his power and if he did is that impeachable.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29690 on: January 24, 2020, 01:25:54 PM »

I's = not sure
CV = courts should decide
What is the difference between these two?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29691 on: January 24, 2020, 01:27:12 PM »
So the answer to
I put forth a premise that based on all the current evidence, it's not possible to make an honest case for impeachment, and challenged you to prove me wrong.
is ....
There is a trial going on to decide if he abused his power and if he did is that impeachable.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29692 on: January 24, 2020, 01:29:50 PM »
What is the difference between these two?
Thats an easy one but will answer right after your answer.
Please explain what you think the irony is?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29693 on: January 24, 2020, 01:30:37 PM »
So the answer to is ....
Are you talking what happened in the house or what is happening in the senate?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29694 on: January 24, 2020, 01:37:17 PM »
Are you talking what happened in the house or what is happening in the senate?
I'm not asking what happened in either. I'm asking you to make an honest case for impeachment based on the current evidence.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29695 on: January 24, 2020, 01:40:38 PM »
I'm not asking what happened in either. I'm asking you to make an honest case for impeachment based on the current evidence.
So you want me to start with the phone call?
Then we can have 1k pages for each piece of evidence?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29696 on: January 24, 2020, 01:45:03 PM »
We have a scumbag president that calls traumatic brain injuries to our brave soldiers "headaches". Lets see who is going to call this scumbag out!!!

The Pentagon said on Friday that 34 service members had been diagnosed with traumatic brain injury following strikes by Iran on a base in Iraq earlier this month.
Is that a pin I hear dropping?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29697 on: January 24, 2020, 02:02:03 PM »

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29698 on: January 24, 2020, 02:04:50 PM »
So you want me to start with the phone call?
I just want you to spell out for me why he should be impeached. Start with whatever you want.

(you're jumping straight to arguments without willing to pin down what the facts under argument are)


Which I guess bring us back here:
Is your "honest case for impeachment" not that he did in fact abuse his power to dig up dirt on his political opponent and should therefore be thrown out of office?
 
Or are you suggesting he should be thrown out of office because he might've abused his power but we're not really sure yet if he did?

Then we can have 1k pages for each piece of evidence?
I'm definitely not doing that here. I just want to hear that there's an honest case to be made, I'm not going to litigate the case here.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29699 on: January 24, 2020, 02:13:15 PM »
Lets see if this helps you.
I asked this many times: What standard of evidence is used to impeachment in the House. Only answer I got it is up to everyone on their own. Ok then I am going to use more than 50% sure (civil case). Based on the phone call, many witnesses saying everyone was in the loop and other info, IMPEACHED.
Now we move on to the trial in the Senate. For that my standard is the same as a criminal trial. Without witnesses there is no way I could convict. Not because it is a sham or hoax but because the evidence presented doesn't support it. 
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