US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[whYME]

Lets see if this helps you.

It does not.

I need the allegations (what did he do for which he should be impeached?) spelled out.


ETA: Again, you're jumping ahead to what the result should be but you refuse to pin down exactly what the allegation (or case against him to use the term we've been using in this thread) is.

[CountValentine]

It does not.

I need the allegations (what did he do for which he should be impeached?) spelled out.


ETA: Again, you're jumping ahead to what the result should be but you refuse to pin down exactly what the allegation (or case against him to use the term we've been using in this thread) is.

Reread my post until you see at least two of what you call allegations. If you don't see them get new glasses. If that doesn't work we will need others to jump in and show me what I am missing. We all know it has to be me. 

GS, time to make my rounds today.

[whYME]

Is that a pin I hear dropping?

I honestly haven't really been following much of the other things going on in the world this week, so I don't even know what you're talking about. But I'll definitely agree that Trump often says stupid things, and often seems to be just running his mouth without thinking. (Is there anyone here who would disagree on that?)

[whYME]

The honest case for impeachment is he abused his power to get dirt on a political opponent.
How many times do I have to say this?

ETA: Wait a minute. You want me to list the evidence step by step starting with the phone call?

I think we started getting somewhere here until things got derailed with

It is not a fact he abused his power. That is the what they are trying to prove and all of us (not the nutcases on both sides) are trying to figure out.

I'm not asking for evidence, I'm asking you to be clear with what you're saying. i.e. what exactly was it that he did which was an abuse of power, and what was the "dirt on a political opponent" that he was after?

Anyways, I'm out for now, to be continued after Shabbos sometime...

[CountValentine]

What is with these idiots?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pompeo-berated-cursed-at-npr-reporter-over-ukraine-questions-she-says/ar-BBZj2vV?ocid=spartandhp

[CountValentine]

We have a scumbag president that calls traumatic brain injuries to our brave soldiers "headaches". Lets see who is going to call this scumbag out!!!

The Pentagon said on Friday that 34 service members had been diagnosed with traumatic brain injury following strikes by Iran on a base in Iraq earlier this month.

Can still hear that pin. 

[aygart]

Can still hear that pin. 

You have yet to provide a link

[CountValentine]

You have yet to provide a link

That's your answer? 
Not going to say to get out more because even those living in a bubble have seen the reports.

[CountValentine]

A major veterans group has called for President Donald Trump to apologize for "misguided" remarks minimizing the severity of traumatic brain injuries suffered by U.S. forces in an Iranian air attack earlier this month.
The Veterans of Foreign Wars, the oldest major U.S. veterans group, appears to be the first large veterans organization to publicly chastise the president for dismissing the injuries as "headaches" and "not very serious."
Trump "minimized these troops' injuries," VFW National Commander-in-Chief William "Doc" Schmitz said in a statement Friday, after a Pentagon announcement that the number of injured troops had risen to 34.

[whYME]

Can still hear that pin. 

I wonder if it's the same pin I'm hearing waiting to hear an honest case for impeachment...

[CountValentine]

I wonder if it's the same pin I'm hearing waiting to hear an honest case for impeachment...

I gave you the case. I asked if you want evidence piece by piece and you ignore it all. I ask if you are talking about the house or senate as I laid out the difference.

whYME - How much is 2 + 2
CV - 4
wYME - you didn't answer.
CV - you need to take your head out of the sand. 

[CountValentine]

What is with these idiots?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pompeo-berated-cursed-at-npr-reporter-over-ukraine-questions-she-says/ar-BBZj2vV?ocid=spartandhp

Here is this scumbags response!!! 
Look at the last line and tell me who is the LIAR.

NPR reporter Mary Louise Kelly lied to me, twice. First, last month, in setting up our interview and, then again yesterday, in agreeing to have our post-interview conversation off the record. It is shameful that this reporter chose to violate the basic rules of journalism and decency. This is another example of how unhinged the media has become in its quest to hurt President Trump and this Administration. It is no wonder that the American people distrust many in the media when they so consistently demonstrate their agenda and their absence of integrity.
It is worth noting that Bangladesh is NOT Ukraine.

Anyone going to call this scumbag out?

[whYME]

whYME - How much is 2 + 2
CV - 4
wYME - you didn't answer.

No, I'm not asking how much 2+2 is, I'm asking what are the 2 & the +2 in this case?
(something like "Trump committed an impeachable abuse of power by doing x to get y.")

Are you saying there's a difference between the House and Senate in what the case is? Or just that the standard for conviction in the Senate is much higher than impeachment in the House?

[CountValentine]

No, I'm not asking how much 2+2 is, I'm asking what are the 2 & the +2 in this case?
(something like "Trump committed an impeachable abuse of power by doing x to get y.")

Are you joking? I have said over and over he abused his power by withholding aid/meetings in return for dirt on a political opponent.

[whYME]

Are you joking? I have said over and over he abused his power by withholding aid/meetings

Now we're getting somewhere.
I'm gonna assume you meant you said it over and over before I was in this thread, because this is the first time you're saying it to me

in return for dirt on a political opponent.

I need you to be more specific here

[CountValentine]

I need you to be more specific here

No you don't. You claimed you understood the other sides position. Do you or don't you?

[whYME]

No you don't. You claimed you understood the other sides position. Do you or don't you?

You claimed there's an honest case to be made but you refuse to say what it is. Is there or isn't there one?

[aygart]

A major veterans group has called for President Donald Trump to apologize for "misguided" remarks minimizing the severity of traumatic brain injuries suffered by U.S. forces in an Iranian air attack earlier this month.
The Veterans of Foreign Wars, the oldest major U.S. veterans group, appears to be the first large veterans organization to publicly chastise the president for dismissing the injuries as "headaches" and "not very serious."
Trump "minimized these troops' injuries," VFW National Commander-in-Chief William "Doc" Schmitz said in a statement Friday, after a Pentagon announcement that the number of injured troops had risen to 34.

The only thing you can do is quote someone upset about it an not what he actually said?

[CountValentine]

The only thing you can do is quote someone upset about it an not what he actually said?

No

[aygart]

No

If you want to have an honest conversation about something then the way to do it is by quoting him and not just someone upset about it. By your starting the conversation this way it is no shock that you were ignored. You deserve to be. Now is too late.