US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

Why do you need to conflate Trump's horribleness with Clinton's horribleness. They're both horrible!
I do not know which horribleness is worse at this point in time.

BECAUSE THE CHOICE IS TO PICK YOUR POISON

The horribleness which can and will be acted upon is certainly worse IMHO.

[jungarmtl]

my opinion is that trump wasn't enough smart to keep all his garbage in his stomach vs Hillary tries  to lie and hide as much as possible and yet we know she is so corrupt amagine if you will know everything about the clintons as you know of trump...

[Dan]

[Dan]

[CS1]

And brought anti semitism and white supremacy mainstream, has stated giving Israel financial aid would be reconsidered, and has no pro Israel history or bona-fides to speak of

It's still better than Hillary's well documented positions. She has plans for worse outcomes, as well, as her wikied emails and long term advisor Max Blumnethal indicates.

(Research Jared Kushner's views vs. Max and Sid Blumenthal)

[jungarmtl]

similar to Achashvierosh , give me a break , i guess he doesn't know history, or doesn't know what similar means

[pixi]

I'm not saying this is my final answer, I'll watch the next 2 debates and make up my mind.

Really?  Will a debate with stupid question (like you said 20 years ago this and this) with a biased  moderator let you decide who you should vote for?  I watch the debates just for fun but I look on the bigger picture when I decide who to vote for.  I've studied Hillary well,  I can not see myself voting for her in a million years,  this woman is the most corrupt person I ever saw in my  entire life.

[Dan]

Really?  Will a debate with stupid question (like you said 20 years ago this and this) with a bios moderator let you decide who you should vote for?  I watch the debates just for fun but I look on the bigger picture when I decide who to vote for.  I've studied Hillary well,  I can not see myself voting for her in a million years,  this woman is the most corrupt person I ever saw in my  entire life.

How many times do I need to say this?
I'm not voting for Hillary. I'm deciding between Donald and Superman.
I want to see Donald defend himself like a rational human being, stay cool under pressure, and articulate his positions. He failed at the first debate trying to do that.

[ExGingi]

I'd say Gd bless America where I can choose not to choose.

Being registered to vote in OH, I would say that it a fallacy. If you don't vote (or if you write in anyone), that's a choice for HRC this time around.

However, you do have religious freedom, and if you learned a מאמר this past Shabbos, you might have found that your best outcome might actually be by totally giving up any of your choices or wishes. I honestly think that this election cycle is a סימן מלמעלה for all yidden to stop putting any hope into any of the political parties, your best move might just be to ignore everything and ask a Rov, or Mashpia the day before the election (or the morning thereof) what to do, and act accordingly.

I'm not saying this is my final answer, I'll watch the next 2 debates and make up my mind.

Really?

Will the debates actually formulate your opinion or cement your decision? Will ANYONE (at least on these forums) change their opinion based on the debates? Don't we already know full well what the choices are?

I am challenging myself (and anyone else who wishes to join the challenge) to totally tune out of the debate this evening.

[Dan]

Being registered to vote in OH, I would say that it a fallacy. If you don't vote (or if you write in anyone), that's a choice for HRC this time around.

However, you do have religious freedom, and if you learned a מאמר this past Shabbos, you might have found that your best outcome might actually be by totally giving up any of your choices or wishes. I honestly think that this election cycle is a סימן מלמעלה for all yidden to stop putting any hope into any of the political parties, your best move might just be to ignore everything and ask a Rov, or Mashpia the day before the election (or the morning thereof) what to do, and act accordingly.
Really?

Will the debates actually formulate your opinion or cement your decision? Will ANYONE (at least on these forums) change their opinion based on the debates? Don't we already know full well what the choices are?

I am challenging myself (and anyone else who wishes to join the challenge) to totally tune out of the debate this evening.

Good grief. Go read the last 10 pages of this thread. I'm tired of repeating myself.

[pixi]

How many times do I need to say this?
I'm not voting for Hillary. I'm deciding between Donald and Superman.
I want to see Donald defend himself like a rational human being, stay cool under pressure, and articulate his positions. He failed at the first debate trying to do that.

Well,  not voting for Trump Is automatically a vote for Hillary.  So if you say I'm not  voting for Hillary you're obviously voting for Trump.

[ExGingi]

I want to see Donald defend himself like a rational human being, stay cool under pressure, and articulate his positions. He failed at the first debate trying to do that.

Do you think Ted Cruz likes Trump, or for that matter is surprised by the recent developments? Do you think Ted Cruz ever thought that Trump can be rational, stay cool under pressure, and articulate his position? Yet despite everything he (and should I add: all of us) know(s) about Trump, he decided to support him for 6 well articulated reasons.

[Moshe123]

This Clinton campaign memo on Maggie Haberman is interesting. https://t.co/03Zoiueiem - https://t.co/jgNE7Id6SQ

Wow

[ExGingi]

Uber ich bin nisht a Rebbe.
And most of frum Judaism was pro-Napoleon.

And we do know who blew Shofar before davening so that Napoleon loses...

[elit]

Instead they should defend Hillary?

How about don't defend either.

No worse than the Rebbes who supported the Czar over Napoleon. THat didn't mean that the Czar was a tzaddik at all only that he felt the Czar would be better than Napoleon. The facts are that this is a choice between two horrible options for president. The best option IMHO is to have a crazy guy who will have no support from congress, thr Judiciary, or the bureaucracy over the one who will be backed by all those to continue her corruption and undermine everything we hold dear.You are no better off being unable to answer why you didn't do what you could to stop her.You may have to answer to your child why you did nothing to prevent her from ............

Completely different. That was life and death situation

Do you think Ted Cruz likes Trump, or for that matter is surprised by the recent developments? Do you think Ted Cruz ever thought that Trump can be rational, stay cool under pressure, and articulate his position? Yet despite everything he (and should I add: all of us) know(s) about Trump, he decided to support him for 6 well articulated reasons.

Please! He's a politician....

[george]

Everybody should just write-in Pence.

[Moshe123]

NJ Lt. Gov. Guadagno won’t vote for Trump.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/lt_gov_guadagno_breaks_with_christie_wont_vote_for.html

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

More than anyone else this year, Chris Christie deserves his utter humiliation.

[Dan]

Anyone have the line on Trump bombing so badly tonight that the RNC starts trying to forcibly oust him tomorrow?

[ilherman]

That was my thought as well. If Trump does not perform well tonight he most likely is toast. Question is will he have the guts to hand it over to Pence.

And I can't wait in that case for Pence to take over, boy will the democrats regret revealing that video.....

[aygart]

This Clinton campaign memo on Maggie Haberman is interesting. https://t.co/03Zoiueiem - https://t.co/jgNE7Id6SQ

Wow

And even so you keep lapping up everything they tell you.